Ekteparet Crist (Christian) Benson fra Solør og Marion (Maren) Knutsen fra Gran, Hadeland emigrert til Nord Dakota – finne igjen i norske kilder?

[Jorunn Stenberg]

På leting etter utvandret slekt i USA finner jeg denne familien i Familysearch Christ Benson (1854–1948) • Person • Family Tree ). Se også innskannet artikkel om familien på FS under «minner».

 

Ifølge census 1910 og 1920 (lenke i «sources») har foreldrene ankommet USA hver for seg, først far Christ Benson i 1887/1888, og deretter mor Maren/Marion/Mary Knutsen i 1889/1890, antakelig med de to eldste barna som oppgis å være født i Norge.

 

FindAGrave gir Christ Benson fødselsdato 5. mars 1854, fødested Solør, død 24. mai 1948 Lakota, ND.  Christ Benson (1854-1948) - Find a Grave Memorial

 

Maren Knutsen oppgis å være født 10. januar 1865, Gran, Hadeland, død 13. februar 1921 Nelson, ND. Maren “Mary” Knutson Benson (1865-1921) - Find a Grave Memorial

 

De to eldste barna er oppgitt å være født i Norge. Datteren Besse/Bessie er oppgitt både med fødsel 28. juli 1885 Hedmark/Oppland, og på dødsattesten født 19. januar 1885 Oslo, Norway. Død 21. februar 1959. Bessie Johnson, "Washington, Death Certificates, 1907-1960"

I census 1940 bor far Christ Benson (86 år gammel) sammen med datteren Bessie og hennes mann Oscar Johnsen i Mountrail, ND. Bessie Johnson, "United States, Census, 1940"

 

Sønnen Christ Hans Benson oppgis å være født 6. januar 1888 i Hedmark (WW1 draft Christ Hans Benson, "United States, World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918"), død 6. mai 1980 Columbia, Oregon. I census 1950 finnes han i Petersburg ND, gift med Merle. Hans yrke oppgis å være «village marshall». Christ H Benson, "United States, Census, 1940"

 

Med så detaljerte opplysninger for disse fire familiemedlemmene, skulle man tro de ville være mulig å spore opp i Digitalarkivet før utvandring, men den gang ei…  Denne nøtten var hard å knekke. Håper på hjelp fra forumet for å finne fødsel/dåp i Norge for foreldrene og de to eldste barna, og evt vielse mellom Christ/Christian Benson og Maren Knutsen.

Endret Onsdag 13:39 av Jorunn Stenberg

[Sven Hjortland]

Forslag:

 

Maren https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000031193419

Bessie https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/5070/18 Anne Birgitte

Christ Hans https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/5070/39  Ole Kristian

Endret Onsdag 15:55 av Sven Hjortland

[Anton Hagelee]

3 hours ago, Jorunn Stenberg said:

og evt vielse mellom Christ/Christian Benson og Maren Knutsen.

 

Marn Kundson

in the North Dakota, U.S., Select County Marriage Records, 1872-2017

NameMarn Kundson

Marriage Age26

Birth Yearabt 1865

Marriage Date7 Jun 1891

Marriage PlaceMy Office, Nelson, North Dakota, USA

Filing PlaceNelson, North Dakota, USA

SpouseChristian Benson

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61305/records/90166621?tid=56790001&pid=150154113699&ssrc=pt

 

[Sven Hjortland]

3 timer siden, Jorunn Stenberg skrev:

Datteren Besse/Bessie

Konfirmert i Petersburg, ND 23. mars 1902  som Anne Birgitte Benson, født 19.01.1885

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60722/records/4421055

 

 

[Jorunn Stenberg]

Takk for veldig interessante innlegg fra Sven og Anton! Konfirmasjonen til Anne Bergitte i Petersburg bekrefter at dette er rett person. Da ser det ut til at begge de eldste barna var Maren sine før ekteskapet med Christ Benson, som iflg innlegget til Anton skjedde etter immigrasjonen. Jeg har dessverre ikke tilgang til Ancestry, men flott at dere legger inn kopier av dokumentene her. Da er det vel egentlig kun Christ Benson sin fødsel/dåp i Solør (?) som gjenstår å finne. 

Endret Onsdag 19:03 av Jorunn Stenberg

[Jackie K Marler]

According to this tree, Bessie was married 3 times Oscar Johnson was the last:

https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/L1QQ-28Y

[Anton Hagelee]

Far er Hans C Bensen på dødsattest?

 

[Jorunn Stenberg]

Kanskje denne her, født 19. mars 1854 på Rikshospitalet, Oslo?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000019475203

[Sven Hjortland]

6 minutter siden, Jorunn Stenberg skrev:

Kanskje denne her, født 19. mars 1854 på Rikshospitalet, Oslo?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000019475203

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01036392277076

[Sven Hjortland]

https://www.newspapers.com/article/grand-forks-herald/166752694/

[Anton Hagelee]

Et langskudd.

 

Hans Christian Bentsen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameHans Christian Bentsen

GenderMale

Birth Date17. des 1853 (17 Dec 1853)

Baptism Date5. feb 1854 (5 Feb 1854)

Baptism PlaceTorvestad,Rogaland,Norway

FatherBent Hansen

MotherMarie Olsdr

FHL Film Number126360

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60092/records/12832938

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000023504429

 

Bent Hansen i 1894? Nr 105

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050923020403

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&c[]=11&firstname=bent&lastname=hansen&birth_year_from=&birth_year_to=&birth_date=&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=&related_first_name=&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=&sort=rel

 

 

 

 

Endret Onsdag 21:44 av Anton Hagelee

[Jackie K Marler]

Here it says Christian Benson was born in Soler (Solor) Norway:

https://digitalhorizonsonline.org/digital/collection/ndsl-books/id/9711/rec/1

 

Here is an American Christian Benson who is married who is leaving Norway in 1885:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000454087

 

And a Christian and an Amalie leaving in 1885 (married?) #1607-1608

White Star-linjen, AV/SAO-PAO-0201/D/Da/L0001: Passasjerlisteprotokoll, 1883-1890, s. 71
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/em20110223670071

 

Endret Onsdag 22:25 av Jackie K Marler

[Jorunn Stenberg]

 

This was really great to see, Jackie, thanks so much! Such a comprehensive overwiev of all his children and grandchildren at the time. This confirms several of my earlier finds, and answers some questions as well.

 

[Sven Hjortland]

https://library.ndsu.edu/db/naturalization/

https://library.ndsu.edu/ndsuarchives/order-copies-nd-naturalization-records

 

 

Her kan du bestille kopi av Naturalization Records 2nd papers for Christ Benson. Kanskje du finner flere opplysninger for å identifisere hvem han var.

Kopien koster 5 USD

[Sven Hjortland]

Kan denne følges videre fra dåpen? https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000033352717

[Anton Hagelee]

12 minutes ago, Sven Hjortland said:

Kan denne følges videre fra dåpen? https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000033352717

 

Kandidat?

 

Christian Berntsen

in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938

NameChristian Berntsen

Marriage Age26

Record Typeekteskap (Marriage)

Birth Date1857

Birth PlaceKorsmoe

Marriage Date22. feb 1883 (22 Feb 1883)

Marriage PlaceGrue, Hedmark, Norge (Norway)

Marriage MunicipalityGrue

Residence PlaceKorsmo i Gindal

FatherBernt Olsen Korsmoe

SpouseMine Olsdatter

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60606/records/3780996

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000003444159

 

 

 

 

Endret Onsdag 22:41 av Anton Hagelee

[Sven Hjortland]

5 minutter siden, Anton Hagelee skrev:

 

Kandidat?

 

Christian Berntsen

in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

NameChristian Berntsen

GenderMale

Marriage Date22. feb 1883 (22 Feb 1883)

Marriage PlaceGrue,Hedmark,Norway

FatherBernt Olsen

SpouseMarie Olsdr

FHL Film Number1282610

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60095/records/3002580

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000003444159

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/9/og00000001020605

[Anton Hagelee]

Christian Korsmoe

in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957

NameChristian Korsmoe

GenderMale

Ethnicity/ NationalityNorwegian

Age31

Birth Dateabt 1857

Place of OriginNorway

Departure PortChristiania, Norway and Kristiansand, Norway and Copenhagen, Denmark

DestinationUSA

Arrival Date28 Apr 1888

Arrival PortNew York, New York, USA

Ship NameThingvalla

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/7488/records/8762677

 

[Jackie K Marler]

"Solørlag of America is a community of people searching out their family history in Hedmark Fylke in Norway. In its 35th year since reactivation in 1983, the lag's membership includes people with roots not only in the old Solør parishes of Brandval, Grue, Hof, Åsnes and Våler, but also Odal and Kongsvinger-Eidskog, plus Hedmark's northern area of Østerdal and Hedemarken near Lake Mjøsa........"

 

Solør has many parishes within it.

 

[Jackie K Marler]

21 minutes ago, Sven Hjortland said:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/9/og00000001020605

Here in 1910 census Christian says he came in 1888 and that he is naturalized:

"United States, Census, 1910", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLPQ-ST9 : Sun Mar 10 09:58:17 UTC 2024), Entry for Christian Benson and Maren Benson, 1910.

[Jackie K Marler]

#5 Christian Berntson and Marie Olsdatter marrying in Grue

Grue prestekontor, AV/SAH-PREST-036/H/Ha/Haa/L0012: Ministerialbok nr. 12, 1881-1897, s. 258
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070111670685

 

Might be this family in an American tree:

https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/9Z6J-MK9

 

Probably the death of this Christian Berntson:

"Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MZ-NRFF : Sat Mar 09 10:14:29 UTC 2024), Entry for Christian Benson and Berndt Benson, 15 May 1930.

 

Endret Torsdag 00:17 av Jackie K Marler

[Anton Hagelee]

25 minutes ago, Jackie K Marler said:

Might be this family in an American tree:

https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/9Z6J-MK9

 

Yes Ancestry has this tree for the same family. 

 

Sigurd Alfred Benson

1891–1941

BIRTH 15 JULY 1891 • Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, United States of America

DEATH 24 FEBRUARY 1941 • Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, United States of America

 

 

Christian Berntsen Korsmo Benson

1857–1930

BIRTH 25 FEBRUARY 1857 • Grue, Hedmark, Norway

DEATH 15 MAY 1930 • Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA

 

Anne Christiansdatter Snapa

1829–

BIRTH 22 JAN 1829 • Snapa, Grue, Hedmark, Norway

DEATH Unknown

 

 

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/77706596/person/42424074503/facts

 

 

[Jorunn Stenberg]

14 timer siden, Jackie K Marler skrev:

Here it says Christian Benson was born in Soler (Solor) Norway:

https://digitalhorizonsonline.org/digital/collection/ndsl-books/id/9711/rec/1

 

Here is an American Christian Benson who is married who is leaving Norway in 1885:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000454087

 

And a Christian and an Amalie leaving in 1885 (married?) #1607-1608

White Star-linjen, AV/SAO-PAO-0201/D/Da/L0001: Passasjerlisteprotokoll, 1883-1890, s. 71
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/em20110223670071

 

 

The couple Chris and Amalie Benson leaving Norway i 1885: May be this couple, marriage in Hennepin 1883 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJGY-BQVX?lang=en&cid=fs_copy  In the passenger list their names are lined over. Might that be that they did not go on board? Have not been able to find more about them so far.

 

Edit: In the passengerlist 1885, next  in line is a family from Hønefos (Ringerike) named Bratstad, Hjalmar O. Bratstad age 25,  wife Anna and their 2 children. Looking closely at the marriage record for Chris and Amalie (1883 Hennepin), her last name may well spell Bratstad!

Endret Torsdag 12:28 av Jorunn Stenberg

[Jackie K Marler]

55 minutes ago, Jorunn Stenberg said:

 

The couple Chris and Amalie Benson leaving Norway i 1885: May be this couple, marriage in Hennepin 1883 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJGY-BQVX?lang=en&cid=fs_copy  In the passenger list their names are lined over. Might that be that they did not go on board? Have not been able to find more about them so far.

Crossed out at upper part of page but re-written at the lower half--their numbers would have been out of sequence in the space at the upper half but are in the correct order at the lower--maybe someone being more careful?  Says she was from Ringerike and he was from America.  That marriage record was a good find.

 

Here they are in the 1885 Minnesota state census:

Endret Torsdag 13:13 av Jackie K Marler

[Jorunn Stenberg]

Brastad family, Hønefoss in census / folketelling 1865. Children listed here are Amalie Mathilde Theresse and Axel Bernhard Jalmar (Hjalmar)  004 Axel Bernhard Jalmar Brastad* - 0117 !! - 000 - Tellingskretsoversikt - Folketelling 1865 for 0601B Norderhov prestegjeld, Hønefoss kjøpstad - Digitalarkivet

 

Amalie died in 1890, Hennepin. No further clue to her husband here: Amalie Mathilde Teresse Brastad (1856–1890) 3• Person • Slektstre