Assistance with Ellef Jonssen b abt 1786 and his parents

[Karen Boudreau]

I am working on my 5th GGF and his parents from Evje Parish.  I think his parents, Jon Ellefsen and Ingebor Jonsdatter, were married in Evje in April 1785.  I haven't been able to confidently find their first son, my 5th GGF, Ellef Jonssen, who was born around 1786.  I've attached the permalink for what I think is the marriage, and then a baptism on 26 Feb 1786 which might be the right one.  But the father's name in the birth record looks to be Notto (?) and the child's name Tellev.  But the mother looks to be correct.

 

ANy thoughts?  Can anyone translate for me please?

Thanks so much,

Karen 

 

Baptism: https://urn.digitalarkivet.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070524330383.jpg

Marriage 30 Jun 1785: https://urn.digitalarkivet.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070524330381.jpg

 

[Even Stormoen]

Hello, Karen

 

First and foremost: Would be so much more helpful ( for helpers 😉 if you instead of link to picture could provide link to the actual page («sidelenke» in norwegian). Then one can ‹turn pages›, compare letters, enlarge etc. 

Just sayin’ 🙂

 

But – on Feb. the 6th. there are three baptisms: Two whos father is Notto, (correct) and unfortunately no child named Ellef. One Tellev, though, whos mother Ingeborg is without patronym. But she’s the wife of one of the Nottos – both living at Aaneland. The father Notto here is btw son of an Ellev.

 

I would love to say: Hope this helps, but apparently not. Sorry.

 

Reg.

 

PS. Will look into the marriage record later. 🙂

 

[Karen Boudreau]

Thanks, and apologies on the link - I'll do that next time.

[Even Stormoen]

No apologies needed. Who would know this is what the [edited to say: us] ‹nerds› here prefer? 😉

‹Working› on the marriage . . . 🙂 

 

Reg.

 

Endret Mars 12 av Even Stormoen

[Even Stormoen]

Well, the marriage (if I spotted the correct one) is between Jon Ellevss: Aaneland og [and] P. [«pige», i.e. unmarried woman] Ingeborg Jonsdr: Skieggestad.

 

The farmname Aaneland is the same in both this and the baptismal record (previous post). But Notto in the previous kinda ‹sinks the ship› that these posts are related. IMO.

 

Reg.

[Karen Boudreau]

Thanks - that's what I was thinking.  I'll keep searching.  I'm pretty confident that the marriage is correct. I've just discovered siblings, and Notto was Joen's older brother, born in 1747

Endret Mars 12 av Karen Boudreau

[Karen Boudreau]

Also, in this entry that I found while looking for Ellef's grandmother Targier's death, it looks like several family members (Ellef Aaneland, his wife Targier, Jon Skkieggestad and his wife Tonne were absolved of something.  Or were all of those people's deaths consecrated in 1761 and only Jon Skkieggestad and Tonne were absolved? Can anyon help with the translation?  About 1/2 of the way down on the right panel.

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9442/45530/3

 

 

Endret Mars 12 av Karen Boudreau

[Even Stormoen]

Well, (again, if i spotted the correct entries) – the first three lines are ‹burials›. Brackets because it is the cermony performed by the priest (Jordpåkastelse in Norwegian) often long after the actual burial took place.

It looks like both Ellef Aaneland and his qv. [qvinde, woman] Targier are dead.

 

Next entry is about absolvation, yes. Jon S. and Tonne for barneskade (as I read it) Clumsy translation: Child-injury. Hmm . . . Most likely accidently.

 

Reg.

Endret Mars 12 av Even Stormoen
The lady had a name after all, sorry.

[Even Stormoen]

Oh dear, my bad – among the ‹burials› is Jon Skieggestads barn (child) Astri. So the barneskade was appearently serious. Apologies for not seeing that connection immediately.

 

Reg.

[Even Stormoen]

As an aside – and I guess you are familiar with this already – regrettably it was not at all uncommon in those days when ‹everybody› slept together in one (small, by our standards) bed, that one could accidently strangulate an infant by i.e. rolling over it while sleeping. Not a very pleasant thought. . .

 

Reg.

[Karen Boudreau]

Ohhh - wow!  That is not good at all and so scary.  You did find the right section, so thank you so much!  I am still getting my eyes used to deciphering this Norwegian script (and then translating).  A few months ago when I was working on it more regularly, I was a bit quicker.  But then I spent time working on my German line and then Scottish...  So many old scripts and unfamiliar words!

 

K

[Even Stormoen]

5 minutter siden, Karen Boudreau skrev:

I am still getting my eyes used to deciphering this Norwegian script (and then translating).  A few months ago when I was working on it more regularly, I was a bit quicker.  But then I spent time working on my German line and then Scottish... 

 

 

One word: Impressed! 🙂

 

Reg