Searching for information on Anna Marie (Mary) Anderson

[Edward Campbell]

Thanks for the follow up information. I agree with Anton's assessment that the 2nd possible Anna Marie Mary candidate suggested by Mathias is not reliable. The birth date and family emigration information do not match our records. Mary emigrated and married Peder Larsen (Peter Larson) in 1869. I'm interested in in the first "Mary's" matrimineal ancestors, possibly Eli Elefsdatter or Dorothe Amundsdatter from the Lier area.

[Anton Hagelee]

18 hours ago, Edward Campbell said:

possibly Eli Elefsdatter or Dorothe Amundsdatter from the Lier area.

 

Do you have any links to these two candidates? When were they born etc,  And why do you think that they are connected to your family?

 

 

Endret Tirsdag 18:25 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is a Dorthe Amundsdatter from the area you are interested in, Married in 1798.

 

Dorthe Amundsdr

in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

NameDorthe Amundsdr

GenderFemale

Marriage Date14. nov 1798 (14 Nov 1798)

Marriage PlaceLier,Buskerud,Norway

SpouseAnders Johnsen

FHL Film Number124018

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60095/records/4849918?tid=&pid=&queryId=ec08fd2b-b4d9-41d3-9dcd-1547137f20ad&_phsrc=ZPf9&_phstart=successSource

 

Nr 29

 

  https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061214660640

 

 

Endret Tirsdag 17:58 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Probably their first child, born in 1802?

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000003280244

 

And probably their last child in 1818

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000000513054

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Tirsdag 18:02 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

The couple in the 1801 Census

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058276002339

 

NameDorte Amundsdatter

GenderKvinnelig

Marital Statusgift (Married)

Age25

Birth Yearabt 1776[abt 1776]

Census year1801

CityLier

CountyBuskerud

County Number06

Counting DistrictOpsal

Counting District Number0001

Enumeration District Number002

Relation to HeadH. Hustru

House Number04

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship

Anders Jonssen35Mand (Husband)

Dorte Amundsdatter25H. Hustru

Ole Anderssen2Søn efter 2det ægt.

Anne Andersdatter9Datter efter 1ste ægt.

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61749/records/291692

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Likewise links can be found to Eli Ellefsdatter around the same time frame but not in Frogner.  But connecting these two ladies to your family is rather difficult to say the least. 

 

Eli Ellevsdatter

in the 1801 Norway Census

NameEli Ellevsdatter

GenderKvinnelig

Age2

Birth Yearabt 1799[abt 1799]

Census year1801

CityLier

CountyBuskerud

County Number06

Counting DistrictSauve Hovedgaard

Counting District Number0018

Enumeration District Number001

Relation to HeadDeres børn

House Number01

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship

Ellev Torgersen37Huusbonde

Mari Bendtsdatter26Hans Hustru

Bendt Ellevssen5Deres børn

Torger Ellevssen3Deres børn

Eli Ellevsdatter2Deres børn

Gunder Olsen56Tjenestefolk

Anne Gullichsdatter18Tjenestefolk

Kirsti Michelsdatter16Tjenestefolk

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61749/records/290016

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058276000594

 

 

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Probably the same Eli in the 1865 Census with her son. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038092001963

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Baptism of her son 

 

Ole Andersen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameOle Andersen

GenderMale

Baptism Date4. jul 1823 (4 Jul 1823)

Baptism Place, Lier, Buskerud, Norway

FatherAnders Olsen

MotherEli Ellefsdr

FHL Film Number124018

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60092/records/17990559?tid=&pid=&queryId=43cdfcad-e3c9-4d6c-b6d5-

20cda9d9cbf7&_phsrc=NAU3&_phstart=successSource

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000036403868

 

 

 

 

Endret Tirsdag 18:47 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

On 4/8/2026 at 2:19 PM, Edward Campbell said:

Grandmother Eli Elefsdatter, married John Olson 14 Oct 1784 Frogner, Lier Parish

 

You posted this on page one, but I have not been able to document it. I have searched all three sources for marriages in 1784 for Lier, Buskerud but have not been able to find the source for this marriage. Can you post a link to the document or at least where you have found this marriage record?

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&lt[]=vi&m[]=0626&firstname=&lastname=&birth_year_from=&birth_year_to=&birth_date=&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=1784&event_year_to=1784&event_date=&related_first_name=&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=&sort=rel

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061214660308

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60095/?event=_lier&count=50&event_x=_1&marriage=1784-10_buskerud-norway_30810&marriage_x=0-0-0_1-0

 

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

On 4/8/2026 at 2:19 PM, Edward Campbell said:

Anna Marie's mother: Mari Johnsdatter, father Anders Larsen

Grandmother Eli Elefsdatter, married John Olson 14 Oct 1784 Frogner, Lier Parish

 

Perhaps I have found the family that you have referenced above. They are living in the parish of Hole, Bukerud not Lier. Here is the family in the 1801 Census. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058269001367

 

 

[Edward Campbell]

Yes, this look very close. The dates are in order.  #14 could be Mari Johnsdatter's father and 15 would be her mother.

 

My source is not reliable, AI searching the archives.  I could not pull up the reference to the 1801 census that purportedly had Eli aged 36 years.  Eli Elefsdatter married John Olsen 14 October 1784, also unable to confirm.

 

Will search deeper for Dorothe Amundsdatter.  Born circa 1743.  Died January 15, 1818.  Buried in the Frogner Churchyard.  Record note:  Died at the Moe Farm aged 75.

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

So the Mari Johansdatter I found living in Lier, Buskerud was born about 1804. 

 

Marriage record, 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000009124312

 

The Mari Johnsdatter that is found living in Hole, Buskerud was born in 1789. I would not think that they are the same person. 

 

1801 Census 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058269001367

 

 

 

 

Endret Tirsdag 23:44 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Also this record shows the movement of Anders and Mari in 1826 from Modum to Lier.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/285/pi00000000125422

 

 

[Edward Campbell]

22 hours ago, Anton Hagelee said:

So the Mari Johansdatter I found living in Lier, Buskerud was born about 1804. 

 

Marriage record, 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000009124312

 

The Mari Johnsdatter that is found living in Hole, Buskerud was born in 1789. I would not think that they are the same person. 

 

1801 Census 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058269001367

 

 

 

 

I agree, not the same.  Mari from Hole would have been 56 years old when Anna Marie Andersdatter was born. 

 

We have the birth and christening record of Anna Marie with the same parents.  

Births and baptisms: 1845-09-28  Parish/Church: Frogner  Page: 30 Serial no.: 147

It appears reasonable that these are the parents of the Anna Marie that emigrated to America in 1869 on the Kroger.  Is it possible to identify the parents of Mari Johnsdatter, formerly of Modum?

[Anton Hagelee]

9 minutes ago, Edward Campbell said:

Is it possible to identify the parents of Mari Johnsdatter, formerly of Modum?

 

There are some 10 or so candidates for Mari in the website but this is the only one with father named John 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000010062716

 

 

[Edward Campbell]

23 hours ago, Anton Hagelee said:

So the Mari Johansdatter I found living in Lier, Buskerud was born about 1804. 

 

Marriage record, 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000009124312

 

 

 

 

 

 

this record shows Mari residing in Hols and Anders was from Spjorpund.  Are these the farms they were living or something else?

[Anton Hagelee]

2 hours ago, Edward Campbell said:

his record shows Mari residing in Hols and Anders was from Spjorpund.  Are these the farms they were living or something else?

 

I think the all of the names are from farms, Although I did not see Steenbroe in the list of farms, but I would be very surprised if it was not a farm. 

 

Here is a list of the farms found on Modum. 

 

Modum Parish, Buskerud, Norway Genealogy

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Modum_Parish,_Buskerud,_Norway_Genealogy

 

 

 

Endret 22 timer siden av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is the marriage of Sille Ericsdatter and John Olsen. Interesting they were married around the same time as Mari was born. 

 

Sille Ericsdr

in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926

NameSille Ericsdr

GenderFemale

Marriage Date29. des 1804 (29 Dec 1804)

Marriage PlaceModum, Buskerud, Norway

SpouseJohn Olsen

FHL Film Number124044

Reference ID2:10SD1QV

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60095/records/1669665?tid=&pid=&queryId=670e4c18-b00e-4bc7-a1de-

880039f03e04&_phsrc=wik1&_phstart=successSource

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000002539416

 

Original Record

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061220660389

 

 

 

 

Endret 5 timer siden av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Sille Erichsdatter is a fairly unique name so I think that the following records are probably connected to her. 

 

Here she is working as a servant girl in the 1801 Census. No parents that I can find. born in 1778 which is about right. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058274001882

 

Probably a sibling named Ole born in 1808

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000010066262

 

Probably her as a widow in the 1865 Census.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038090001500

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret 22 timer siden av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

This couple had two girls fairly close together which is usually a sign that the first one died young. They are the only candidates that I can find. 

 

Sille Erichsdatter

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameSille Erichsdatter[Sille Olsen]

GenderFemale

Birth Date29. jan 1776 (29 Jan 1776)

Baptism Date28. jan 1776 (28 Jan 1776)

Baptism PlaceModum, Buskerud, Norway

FatherErich Olsen

MotherMaren Hansdr

FHL Film Number124043

Reference IDBk 2 p414

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60092/records/17084009?tid=&pid=&queryId=c3d5b6bc-4827-4256-8c62-8dbc705c21e9&_phsrc=TYZ5&_phstart=successSource

 

Original Record last entry on the left page 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061220650533

 

Here is the death record for this Sille. She died in 1778. She is found about half way down the left page. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061220650726

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret 22 timer siden av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

And this one born two years later. 

 

Sille Erichsdatter

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameSille Erichsdatter

GenderFemale

Birth Date18. okt 1778 (18 Oct 1778)

Baptism Date25. okt 1778 (25 Oct 1778)

Baptism PlaceModum, Buskerud, Norway

FatherErich Olsen

MotherMaren Hansdr

FHL Film Number124043

Reference IDBk 2 p440

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60092/records/17360157?tid=&pid=&queryId=10e157c2-f25c-427f-b61e-c6d24541973d&_phsrc=TYZ7&_phstart=successSource

 

Original record is the fourth one down on the left page 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061220650546

 

 

 

 

 

Endret 22 timer siden av Anton Hagelee

[Edward Campbell]

Interesting information you have discovered and shared.  The available resources in Norway are incredible, especially in comparison to Northern Ireland and Scotland.

 

I need a tutorial on searching the archives, that's another topic, I guess.

 

I'm thinking these potential ancestors should be verified in some manner.  It seems prudent before going further up this tree? But I don't know what that entails.  I posted this topic on the advice of the Norway DNA Project administrator at FTDNA, where I began the original query.  I've yet to learn how to take my mtDNA and YDNA results and apply to research such as this.  Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

[Anton Hagelee]

6 hours ago, Edward Campbell said:

'm thinking these potential ancestors should be verified in some manner.  It seems prudent before going further up this tree?

 

Yes, I would agree that it is probably time to try to use what I call the Norwegian Farm Books. In Norway they are called Bygdebok or Bygdebøker (plural)

 

A bygdebok (plural: bygdebøker) is a Norwegian local history book, widely considered the best source for Norwegian genealogical research. These books provide in-depth information about specific farms, families, and communities, often detailing who lived where, when they lived there, and their family connections.

 

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Norway_Farm_Books

 

You are going to need to start a new Topic to bring in some new posters who are familiar with the Bygdebøker for Modum, Buskerud. We are dead ended  on these people. 

 

It is likely that Sille Erichsdatter is the girl born in 1778 with parents Erich Olsen and Maren Hansdatter. I can not find any likely candidates for these two. There are too many potentials with similar names. 

 

Sille Erichsdatter married a John Olsen in 1884. Again John Olsen is too common a name for me to find any good candidates. 

 

You need some new posters to find farm names connected to Sille, parents Erich Olsen and his wife Maren Hansdatter and her husband John Olsen. Then search the Bydgebok for these farms to find the correct people and use the books to document their histories. 

 

 

Endret 4 timer siden av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is a list of the books from Modum.  The books 4, 5, and 6 are what need to be accessed. If you have a Norwegian IP address you can use them online, Without a Norwegian IP address you need to be able to use a library. Probably one in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa or North Dakota. 

 

https://libguides.umn.edu/finding-norwegian-bygdeboker/norwegian-bygdeboker-or-local-histories

 

https://apps.library.und.edu/bygdebok/

 

Modum

Modums Historie
By Roar Tank (Vol. 1 - 3), Arnt Ruud (Vol. 4 - 7)
Published by Modum Sparebank, 1941 - 1976
(Volume 2 republished in 1977)
7 volumes
Volume 1.  (No title)
(General history)
Volume 2.  Det siste hundreår
(General history)
Volume 3. (No title)
(General history)
Volume 4.  Gårdshistorien
(Farm histories and genealogy)
Volume 5.  Gårdshistorien
(Farm histories and genealogy)
Volume 6.  Gårdshistorien
(Farm histories and genealogy)
Volume 7.  Register, matrikkel
(Index and matrikkel information)

 

https://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/buskerudbb.html#Modum

 

 

Endret 6 timer siden av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

I took a longer look at the record for Sile Erichsdatter in the 1801 Census. There is a John Olsen born about 1778 also living at the farm Øren in the 1801 Census. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058274001866

 

Might be worth a longer look. 

 

 

Endret 5 timer siden av Anton Hagelee