Bygdebøker for Hol, Modum, Buskerud 1800- 1869

[Edward Campbell]

Looking for Bygdebøker information on the ancestors of Mari Johnsdatter, born 1804, in Hol(s).  Her family may have been associated with the Sjørpo farm.  Mari married Anders Larsen 20 Sept 1822.  It appears they lived in Heggen parish, Modum from 1822 to 1826.  They moved from Modum back to Hol (Wahs Eie or vass eie) in 1826.

 

Candidates for Mari's parents are Anne Pedersdatter and John Olsen of the Hol or Ål area.  Another remote possibility are Sille Ericsdatter and John Olsen of Steenbro.

 

Would also like to confirm other children of Mari Johnsdatter and Anders Larsen, in addition to their daughter Anna Marie Andersdatter (B. 29 July 1845).  Anna Marie emigrated to America in March, 1869 aboard the Monsoon out of Kragero.

[Roy-Petter Askim]

In Mini: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000009124312

It is not Hols (Hol) but Holo farm in Modum, (compare witnesses also from Holo farm in Modum).  Farm no. 51. He from Sporpind.

 

Bygdeboka Modum has nothing under Holo on Marit and parents  https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2010111205040?page=309

 

 

But further information in Klokkerboka: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000009790138 it says he from Mallum (Mæhlum) and her from Halla (also Holo) 17,5 years (born 1805).

 

She must be this one https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000010062716 were you have witness from Holo and Mæhlum. Orig: https://nye.digitalarkivet.no/source/8496/parish/8f8b6ee9-afbb-4541-9b16-9b11bec94b5c?current_list_type=dp (Steenbroe= Stenbro a Husmannsplass under Mæhlum) Farm no. 52.

 

John & Sille is not mentioned at Stenbro under Mæhlum: https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2010111205040?page=323 

 

 

[Roy-Petter Askim]

Sille: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/search/persons/advanced?from=&to=&m%5B%5D=0623&firstname=sille&lastname=eri*&birth_year_from=&birth_year_to=&birth_date=&birth_place=&domicile=&position=&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&event_date=&related_first_name=&related_last_name=&related_birth_year=&sort=ed

92 year old in 1869, born 1777/1778

 

John also at Øren in 1801: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01058274001866 Family no 4, Sille Servant Family 5.

He died 1809 at Diseneje: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/267/pg00000001788489 

 

Husmenn are only mentioned briefly in the Bygdebok so his father Ole is mentioned at Øren in 1801 being 47 years old, no further info. https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2010111205040?page=227 

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[Roy-Petter Askim]

1778 John born to Ole and Ane at Øren: half way down left page: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/8495/222 

 

And Sille to Erich Olsen and Maren Hansdatter,  ……? But can not read the farm-name, possibly Øren as well /witnesses farm-name Aasen?? Sønsteby?? : Half way down left page: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/8495/224

[Anton Hagelee]

21 hours ago, Edward Campbell said:

 

Would also like to confirm other children of Mari Johnsdatter and Anders Larsen, in addition to their daughter Anna Marie Andersdatter (B. 29 July 1845).

 

All of the children were born in Lier.

 

Nils Andersen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameNils Andersen

GenderMale

Birth Date12. sep 1836 (12 Sep 1836)

Baptism Date26. des 1836 (26 Dec 1836)

Baptism Place, Lier, Buskerud, Norway

FatherAnders Larsen

MotherMari Johnsdr

FHL Film Number124020

 

First Nils probably died young 

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60092/records/19785127?tid=&pid=&queryId=22946344-618d-40f9-9219-c51adfcb2a06&_phsrc=glt3&_phstart=successSource

 

Second Nils born in 1838

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000001267417

 

 

 

 

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[Anton Hagelee]

Karen Andersen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameKaren Andersen

GenderFemale

Birth Date21. nov 1840 (21 Nov 1840)

Baptism Date17. jan 1841 (17 Jan 1841)

Baptism Place, Lier, Buskerud, Norway

FatherAnders Larsen

MotherMari Johnsdr

FHL Film Number124020

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60092/records/3486696?tid=&pid=&queryId=acb96b43-034b-4c7f-8ce4-06f5ef643718&_phsrc=glt5&_phstart=successSource

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000001270144

 

 

 

 

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[Anton Hagelee]

And the two that you have seen in the Census records from your earlier post. 

 

Carl Andersen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameCarl Andersen

GenderMale

Birth Date4. mar 1850 (4 Mar 1850)

Baptism Date16. jun 1850 (16 Jun 1850)

Baptism Place, Lier, Buskerud, Norway

FatherAnders Larsen

MotherMari Johnsdr

FHL Film Number278200

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60092/records/7191820?tid=&pid=&queryId=bb151b21-61e9-4d08-83ab-688d724cc7a1&_phsrc=glt9&_phstart=successSource

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000002260607

 

Anne Maria Andersen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameAnne Maria Andersen

GenderFemale

Birth Date29. jul 1845 (29 Jul 1845)

Baptism Date28. sep 1845 (28 Sep 1845)

Baptism Place, Lier, Buskerud, Norway

FatherAnders Larsen

MotherMari Johnsdr

FHL Film Number278200

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60092/records/8417457?tid=&pid=&queryId=1381b31b-ed20-46f6-8eec-0ffcb223f6eb&_phsrc=glt11&_phstart=successSource

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[Anton Hagelee]

Looking at the responses, it would appear that we  did not get very far back in history on the ancestors of Mari Johnsdatter. The problem is that we were not able to take her family tree back far enough in time. The bygdebok are farm history books and are usually focused on the owners of the farms. At a point in time Norway ran out of farmable land that young couples could buy. I notice that Roy-Petter mentioned Husmann. So young men ended up not purchasing  a section of farm land  but ended up leasing or renting  a small piece of land. This is a description;tion from a Norwegian Dictionary that might explain the process. 

 

husmann                 cottager, tenant farmer, crofter, smallholder, 
                        person who rented a house
                        with or without a small plot of land on larger farm.
                        Rent was paid by doing part time work for the farmer.

 

So the bygdebok would have a section on a farm and could easily never mention the Husmann renting or leasing a section of the land.  The bygdebok would talk about the owner and his family. If the farm changed hands the bygdebok would in many instances then discuss the new owner and his family. 

 

 

https://otjoerge.wordpress.com/norwegian-american-dictionary/f-j/#H

 

 

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[Anton Hagelee]

23 hours ago, Edward Campbell said:

Mari married Anders Larsen 20 Sept 1822.  I

 

I was a little surprised that you did not ask about the husband of Mari, Anders Olsen. You might want to investigate his ancestors as it seemed to me in my initial look that his family went back to the early 1700's on the Fure Farm in Modum.

 

My guess is that we might be able to connect your Anders Larsen to Johannes Larsen Fure

 

https://www.geni.com/people/Johannes-Fure/6000000011417289004?through=6000000000945092218

 

Johannes Larsen Fure 

Gender:	Male
Birth:	1753 Sondre Fure, Modum, Buskerud, Norway
Death:	Sondre Fure, Modum, Buskerud, Norway
Place of Burial:	Modum, Buskerud, Norway

 

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