[#73523] Høstdugnad - Tom Waits' norske aner

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Anne Maries foreldre og søsken i 1865: Lenke

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Anne marie 1865: Lenke

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Tollef Olsens søster:Name: Regine Olesdatter Gender: Female Christening date: 02 Jun 1859 Christening place: Engerdal, Hedmark, Norway Residence: Hedmark, Norway Birth date: 14 Sep 1858 Birthplace: Death date: Name note: Race or color (expanded): Father's name: Ole Jensen Father's birthplace: Father's age: Mother's name: Ragnild Tollefsdr Mother's birthplace: Mother's age: Paternal grandfather's name: Paternal grandmother's name: Maternal grandfather's name: Maternal grandmother's name: Batch number: C42440-1 Date range: Record group: Norway-EASy Film number: 307252 Collection: Norway Baptisms 1700-1900

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

OK.Var det da slik at da Toms oldeforeldre Tollef Olsen fra Rendalen og Anne Marie Danielsen/Davidsen/Hansen fra Ullensaker emigrerte var deres søsken og foreldre med? I så tilfelle skal vi lete etter etterkommere etter Tollef og Anne Maries besteforeldre i Norge. Felles forfedre av Tom og evt slektninger blir i så tilfelle 2-tippoldeforeldre og hans nærmeste slektninger i Norge kan være hans 5-menninger.Stemmer dette?

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Tollef Olsen emigrerte i 1880. Broren Tolgar emigrerte i 1875. Tollefs kone Mary emigrerte i 1880 sammen med datteren Anna f 1879, men hun har også en sønn peter født 1881 i Minnesota. Så hun emigrerte Tolgar med familie bor rett ved Tollef. Dette fra 1900 census.Tollef gift 10 år, det samme gjelder Tolgar.

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

Jeg klarer ikke å finne noen av dem i emigrantlistene her på DA. Fant heller ikke Tollef blant utfl fra Rendalen i KB der, men skal sjekke en gang til.

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

Familien i Rendalen i 1875 [url="http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=f70432&gardpostnr=27&personpostnr=221&merk=221#ovre>Lenke og her i 1900

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

men hun er ikke i databasen Begravde Ytre Rendalen 1829-1900

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

Ole Jensen Nysveen døde i 1905 på sykehuset i Hamar Permanent sidelenke: [url="http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1511&idx_id=1511&uid=ny&idx_side=-176>Lenke Permanent bildelenke:

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

Beklager, han døde i 1908.

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

vielsen til Ole Jensen og Ragnhild Tollefsdatter i 1846 [url="http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=17&filnamn=0433viel&gardpostnr=221&merk=221#ovre>Lenkebarnenes dåpJohan 1846 LenkeTolger 1851 Lenke kan Tolger og Tollef være samme person?Jens 1853 LenkeOtto 1855 LenkeRegine 1859 LenkeChristian 1861

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

Regine Olsdatter Nysveens dødsfall i 1877 LenkeI 1875 står det at Ole Jensen også har en datter Regine f 1838. Kan det være feilskrevet for 1858/1859?

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

Otto Olsen Nysveens utfl til USA i 1880 Permanent sidelenke: [url="http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5017&idx_id=5017&uid=ny&idx_side=-171>Lenke Permanent bildelenke:

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

1910 United States Federal CensusName: Solly Olsen [Tolly Olsen] Age in 1910: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Birthplace: Norway Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Norway Mother's Birth Place: Norway Spouse's Name: Mary Home in 1910: Nampa, Canyon, Idaho Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1870Household Members: Name Age Solly Olsen 62 Mary Olsen 59 Olga Olsen 19 Oscar Olsen 17 Mary Olsen 15 Teckla Olsen 13Her står imm.år lik 1870.-1920 United States Federal CensusName: Tollef Olsen Home in 1920: South Nampa, Canyon, Idaho Age: 71 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Birthplace: Norway Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Marie N Father's Birth Place: Norway Mother's Birth Place: Norway Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Own Year of Immigration: 1890 Able to read: Yes Able to Write: No Image: 307Household Members: Name Age Tollef Olsen 71 Marie N Olsen 70 Trckla Olsen 23På image står det 1870.

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Og her står imm. år lik 1875 på Tollef.1930 United States Federal CensusName: Tollef Olson Home in 1930: South Nampa, Canyon, Idaho View Map Age: 82 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Birthplace: Norway Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Marie Race: WhiteHousehold Members: Name Age Tollef Olson 82 Marie Olson 79 Teckla Olson 30

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Ragnild TollefsdotterBirth 30 Jul 1822 in Ytre Rendal, Norway Death 24 Oct 1920 in Nampa, IdahoMor Ragnhild emigrerte.-Tolgar og Tollef er ikke samme person. De bor begge i Bluffton i 1900. 1900 United States Federal CensusName: Tolgar Olson Home in 1900: Bluffton, Otter Tail, Minnesota Age: 56 Birth Date: Nov 1849 Birthplace: Norway Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1875 Relationship to Head of House: Head Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Spouse's Name: Hanna J Marriage year: 1890 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 10 Residence : Bluffton Township, Otter Tail, MinnesotaHousehold Members: Name Age Tolgar Olson 56 Hanna J Olson 26 Hulda O Olson 8 Joseph E Olson 4 Gerda R Olson 2 Paulus S Olson 1 Benn Hawgenson 28

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Her er mor Ragnhild sammen med sin sønn Otto. Torvald f mars 1873 i Norge er oppført som nevø av Otto.1900 United States Federal CensusName: Raguild Olson [Ragnild Olsom] Home in 1900: Blowers, Otter Tail, Minnesota Age: 77 Birth Date: Jul 1822 Birthplace: Norway Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1882 Relationship to Head of House: Mother Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Mother: number of living children: 7 Mother: How many children: 8 Marriage year: 1846 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 54 Residence : Blowers & Homestead Townships, Otter Tail, MinnesotaHousehold Members: Name Age Otto Olson 44 Raguild Olson 77 Lorvald Olson 27

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

1920 United States Federal CensusName: Ragnhild Alson [Ragnhild Olson] Home in 1920: Pleasant Valley, Canyon, Idaho Age: 98 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Birthplace: Norway Relation to Head of House: Mother Father's Birth Place: Norway Mother's Birth Place: Norway Marital Status: Widow Race: White Sex: Female Year of Immigration: 1882 Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 266Household Members: Name Age Torvald Alson 46 Tessie Alson 25 Jessie D Alson 5 Leonard C Alson 3 3/12 Elmer E Alson 1 6/12 Harold G Alson 2/12 Ragnhild Alson 98Hun er oppført som enke, og mor til Torvald.

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Torvald er sønn til Tollefs bror Jens.

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

OK, Tolger Olsen i 1865 Lenke44) Ja, han er oppført med familien i 1875. se 32)Tolleff er sikkert døpt et annet sted enn i Ytre Renal.

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Tollef er født i Rommedals prestegjeld jf innlegg 15.

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Giftemål Ole og Ragnhild: Lenke1846 140946 Ungkarl Daglønner Ole Jens. Sjøli Rommedal Reendalen 28 Pigen Ragnhild Tollefsd. Bodillen Sjølieie i Reendalen Sjølieei i Reendalen 24 Jens Mikkels. Tollef Tollefs. K: Nedre. Annexk. Begges første Ægteskabelige Forbindelse.

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

Ja, her er han Permanent sidelenke: [url="http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9104&idx_id=9104&uid=ny&idx_side=-15>Lenke Permanent bildelenke:

[Gjest Arnfrid Mæland]

47) Ja den hadde vi i 36)Spørsmålet nå når det gjelder slekten fra Rendalen er om noen av Tollefs søsken ble værende igjen i Norge og har etterslekt. Da kan evt Tom Waits ha firmenninger her.Vi må vel ta for oss slekten fra Ullenskaer også.

[Gjest Hanne Line Osberg Eide]

Name: Ole Jensen Gender: Male Christening date: 25 Oct 1818 Christening place: , ROMEDAL, HEDMARK, NORWAY Residence: Romedal, Hedmark, Norway Birth date: 22 Oct 1818 Birthplace: Death date: Name note: Race or color (expanded): Father's name: Jens Michelsson Father's birthplace: Father's age: Mother's name: Ingeborg Olsdr Mother's birthplace: Mother's age: Paternal grandfather's name: Paternal grandmother's name: Maternal grandfather's name: Maternal grandmother's name: Batch number: C42437-2 Date range: Record group: Norway-EASy Film number: 124367 Collection: Norway Baptisms 1700-1900-Name: Michel Jensen Gender: Male Christening date: 18 May 1823 Christening place: , ROMEDAL, HEDMARK, NORWAY Residence: Romedal, Hedmark, Norway Birth date: 10 May 1823 Birthplace: Death date: Name note: Race or color (expanded): Father's name: Jens Michelsson Father's birthplace: Father's age: Mother's name: Ingeborg Olsdr Mother's birthplace: Mother's age: Paternal grandfather's name: Paternal grandmother's name: Maternal grandfather's name: Maternal grandmother's name: Batch number: C42437-2 Date range: Record group: Norway-EASy Film number: 124367 Collection: Norway Baptisms 1700-1900-Name: Inger Jensen Gender: Female Christening date: 14 Jul 1816 Christening place: , ROMEDAL, HEDMARK, NORWAY Residence: Romedal, Hedmark, Norway Birth date: 08 Jul 1816 Birthplace: Death date: Name note: Race or color (expanded): Father's name: Jens Michelsson Father's birthplace: Father's age: Mother's name: Ingeborg Olsdr Mother's birthplace: Mother's age: Paternal grandfather's name: Paternal grandmother's name: Maternal grandfather's name: Maternal grandmother's name: Batch number: C42437-2 Date range: Record group: Norway-EASy Film number: 124367 Collection: Norway Baptisms 1700-1900-Name: Margrethe Jensen Gender: Female Christening date: 25 Jan 1821 Christening place: , ROMEDAL, HEDMARK, NORWAY Residence: Romedal, Hedmark, Norway Birth date: 14 Jan 1821 Birthplace: Death date: Name note: Race or color (expanded): Father's name: Jens Michelsson Father's birthplace: Father's age: Mother's name: Ingeborg Olsdr Mother's birthplace: Mother's age: Paternal grandfather's name: Paternal grandmother's name: Maternal grandfather's name: Maternal grandmother's name: Batch number: C42437-2 Date range: Record group: Norway-EASy Film number: 124367 Collection: Norway Baptisms 1700-1900-Name: Olia Jensen Gender: Female Christening date: 04 Sep 1825 Christening place: , ROMEDAL, HEDMARK, NORWAY Residence: Romedal, Hedmark, Norway Birth date: 24 Aug 1825 Birthplace: Death date: Name note: Race or color (expanded): Father's name: Jens Michelsson Father's birthplace: Father's age: Mother's name: Ingeborg Olsdr Mother's birthplace: Mother's age: Paternal grandfather's name: Paternal grandmother's name: Maternal grandfather's name: Maternal grandmother's name: Batch number: C42437-2 Date range: Record group: Norway-EASy Film number: 124367 Collection: Norway Baptisms 1700-1900-Name: Jens Jensen Gender: Male Christening date: 13 Mar 1831 Christening place: , ROMEDAL, HEDMARK, NORWAY Residence: Romedal, Hedmark, Norway Birth date: 02 Feb 1831 Birthplace: Death date: Name note: Race or color (expanded): Father's name: Jens Michelsen Father's birthplace: Father's age: Mother's name: Ingebor Olsdr Mother's birthplace: Mother's age: Paternal grandfather's name: Paternal grandmother's name: Maternal grandfather's name: Maternal grandmother's name: Batch number: C42437-2 Date range: Record group: Norway-EASy Film number: 124367 Collection: Norway Baptisms 1700-1900