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Kristin Gjeile

Jeg leter etter noen som reiste til Amerika i 1883. Har prøvd både ancestry.com og ellisisland.org uten hell, trenger derfor hjelp av noen litt mer erfarne enn meg selv :)

 

De dro fra et sted som het Ljøsne (Lysne) gardsnr 41, bruksnr 6. Dette lå under gården Lie, gardsnr. 41. Dette lå i Dæhlibygda, Nordre Land, Oppland.

 

Jeg vet ikke hva slags etternavn de benyttet seg av da de reiste, men det var kanskje vanlig å ta navnet etter stedet du dro fra?

 

Her er informasjon om familien:

 

Hans Johannesen Hagen u/Jensval, f. 1852, gift 22/1-1875 med Gunhild Matea Pedersdatter Skolmbakken, f.1848.

Barn: Johan Martin f.10/12-1874, dpt. 14/2-1975 i Haugner Kirke

Berte Marie f. 17/2-1877, dpt. 18/3-1977 i Haugner Kirke

Hans Peter f. 20/5-1879, dpt. 8/6-1979 i Haugner Kirke

Olaf f. 23/9-1881, dpt. 6/11-1881 i Haugner Kirke

 

I min kilde står det at hele familien dro til Amerika i 1883, og at Olaf døde på vei dit.

 

Kilde: Boka om Land bind VIII Nordsinni, side 664, skrevet av Svein Erik Ødegaard.

 

Er det noen her som kan hjelpe meg og finne ut mer om disse menneskene? :)

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Ann-Mary Engum

Fant ikke Hans Johannesen sammen med dem på emigrantlista.

 

Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930 ny

 

 

75211 1883 258 6 7736a 1 14.09.1883 14.09.1883 Gunhild M. Hans. g k 35 N. Land New York Elster Rollo Ppd fglass.gif

 

75212 1883 258 7 7736b 14.09.1883 14.09.1883 Berthe Hans. B. k 4,5 N. Land New York Elster Rollo Ppd fglass.gif

 

75213 1883 258 8 7736c 14.09.1883 14.09.1883 Hans Hans. B. m 3,5 N. Land New York Elster Rollo Ppd fglass.gif

 

75214 1883 258 9 7736d 14.09.1883 14.09.1883 Olaf Hans. B. m 11m N. Land New York Elster Rollo Ppd fglass.gif

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Kristin Gjeile

aha, så faren var kanskje ikke med han nei, det har jeg ikke tenkt på i det hele tatt.. Tusen takk for hjelp! :)

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Gunhild sto med status G (gift) da hun emigrerte i 1883.Kanskje ektemannen hadde dratt over dammen tidligere?

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Kristin Gjeile

Ja det tenkte jeg over også. Det er slett ikke umulig, for det står ingenting i kilden jeg har om at han var død, men bare at han dro til Amerika i 1883.

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Erik Hov

Heisann.

Denne familien og familiene til resten av Gunhild Mathea Pedersdatter Skolmbakkens søsken drev jeg å lette etter for flere år siden og fant dem også :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Denne familien kom først til Minnesota (Grand Meadow området(?) før de endte opp i Waukon ,Iowa der de bodde i 1900 og 1905 og Gunhild døde 19-8-1908. De brukte Lystne til etternavn og hans døde i 1918. De fikk 9 barn tilsammen og 35 barnebarn. Jeg vet om etterkommerne til ca 1973. Det ble laget en bok om etterkommerne deres rundt da.....

Jeg tok også for meg etterkommerne etter Gunhild`s farfar Gulbrand Gulbrandsen (fra Berg/Narum i Fluberg) ,da Gulbrand var bror til min 4 x tippoldefar.

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Hans Lystne

Minnesota, State Census, 1905 birth: 1852 Norway census: 1905 Waukon township, Norman, Minnesota

 

 

Gunild Lystne

Minnesota, State Census, 1905 birth: 1849 Norway census: 1905 Waukon township, Norman, Minnesota

 

 

 

Hans Lystne

Birth: Apr. 21, 1852

Nordre Land Herad

Oppland County, Norway Death: Nov. 1, 1918 trans.gif

Daughter: Clara Noss (1892-1982)

 

Family links:

Spouse:

Gunhild Martha Pederson Lystne (1848 - 1908)

 

Children:

John Martin Lystne (1874 - 1935)*

Bertha Lystne Backen (1877 - 1941)*

Hans Peter Lystne (1879 - 1926)*

Olaf Lystne (1884 - 1979)*

Pauline Lystne Flaa (1886 - 1974)*

Hansine Lystne Schulstad (1887 - 1958)*

Gilbert Lystne (1889 - 1945)*

 

*Calculated relationship Burial:

Ness Lutheran Cemetery

Gary (Norman County)

Norman County

Minnesota, USA

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Created by: sewhat

Record added: Oct 21, 2010

Find A Grave Memorial# 60398826

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Hansine Lystne Schulstad Birth: Nov. 8, 1887

Minnesota, USA Death: Sep. 28, 1958

Norman County

Minnesota, USA trans.gif

 

Family links:

Parents:

Hans Lystne (1852 - 1918)

Gunhild Martha Pederson Lystne (1848 - 1908)

 

Spouse:

Carl Schulstad (1874 - 1949)*

 

Children:

Gladys Schulstad Lee (1907 - 1991)*

Lillie Evelyn Schulstad Dobmeyer (1914 - 2003)*

Verna Irene Schulstad (1921 - 1921)*

 

*Calculated relationship Burial:

Saint Petri Lutheran Cemetery

Gary (Norman County)

Norman County

Minnesota, USA

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Created by: sewhat

Record added: Aug 27, 2012

Find A Grave Memorial# 96110114

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Gladys Schulstad Lee Birth: Nov. 8, 1907

Norman County

Minnesota, USA Death: Apr. 17, 1991

Redmond

King County

Washington, USA trans.gif

 

Family links:

Parents:

Carl Schulstad (1874 - 1949)

Hansine Lystne Schulstad (1887 - 1958)

 

Spouse:

Sivert Lee (1899 - 1973)*

 

*Calculated relationship Burial:

Washington Memorial Park

SeaTac

King County

Washington, USA

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Record added: Feb 06, 2013

Find A Grave Memorial# 104738340

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Name: Norbert Dobmeyer Titles and Terms: Event Type: Census Event Date: 1940 Event Place: Waukon Township, Norman, Minnesota, United States Gender: Male Age: 24 Marital Status: Married Race (Original): White Race: White Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Housekeepers Husband Relationship to Head of Household: Housekeeper's husband Birthplace: Minnesota Birth Year (Estimated): 1916 Last Place of Residence: Rural, Norman, Minnesota District: 54-29 Family Number: 14 Sheet Number and Letter: 1B Line Number: 66 Affiliate Publication Number: T627 Affiliate Film Number: 1943 Digital Folder Number: 005454918 Image Number: 00417 Household Gender Age Birthplace

 

Head Carl M Ulseth M 54 Minnesota

 

Housekeeper Lillie Dobmeyer F 25 Minnesota

 

Housekeeper's husband Norbert Dobmeyer M 24 Minnesota

 

Housekeeper's daughter Darleen Anne Dobmeyer F 5 Minnesota

 

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KSV2-56M

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Inez Luverne Flaa Thordal

Birth: Nov. 13, 1918

Norman County

Minnesota, USA Death: Feb. 28, 2007

Mahnomen

Mahnomen County

Minnesota, USA trans.gif

 

Family links:

Parents:

Paul Marencius Flaa (1879 - 1962)

Pauline Lystne Flaa (1886 - 1974)

 

Spouse:

Mandez Burton Thordal (1916 - 2009)*

 

*Calculated relationship Burial:

Gary Lutheran Cemetery

Gary (Norman County)

Norman County

Minnesota, USA

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Created by: sewhat

Record added: Oct 03, 2011

Find A Grave Memorial# 77521579

http://www.google.no...FjAF&url=http:/

 

 

 

 

Kenneth Arthur Mogen. He married Linda Gail Thordal, daughter of Inez Luverne Flaa.

 

More About Kenneth Arthur Mogen and Linda Gail Thordal:

Private-Begin: Private

http://www.google.no....53077864,d.bGE

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Pauline Lystne (daughter of Hans Johannesen Lystne and Gunhild Marthea Pedersdatter) was born 1885, and died 1974. She married Paul Marsensus Flaa.

 

Children of Pauline Lystne and Paul Marsensus Flaa are:

  1. Cora Louise Flaa.
  2. +Inez Luverne Flaa.
  3. Gladwin Luella Flaa.
  4. Vernice Gladwin Flaa.
  5. Francis Allendorf Flaa.

 

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Paul and Pauline (Lystne) Flaa

Stjordalen, Norway

 

 

 

Paul Flaa was born in Goodbue County, Minnesota, and came to Norman County in early 1880's in his childhood. He was confirmed in the Ness Lutheran Church and grew to manhood in the Waukon vicinity. As a young man he was a street car conductor in Saint Paul, Minnesota, for a brief period, and also worked in a lumber camp. Returning to Norman County, he found and courted Pauline Lystne who was born in Grand Meadow, Mower County, Minnesota, and came as a little girl to Sundahl Township by way of train to Gary. She was also confirmed in the Ness Lutheran Church.

 

Paul and Pauline were married in the Ness Church, July 27, 1905. They farmed in Waukon Township until 1908, when they moved into Gary. There they bought a small four room house, known then as the Wickum house. This was their home the rest of their lives.

 

In 1908 Paul was appointed, by the U S Civil Service Commission, as rural mail carrier out of Gary on route no. 3. He started carrying mail bags on horse back and often had to walk many miles. Later he got a small horse drawn covered wagon for the summertime, and in the winter, he had a canvass covered sled with a tiny stove to keep him warm. Mail deliveries at that time took eight hours to deliver on thirty-two mile routes. No matter what the weather, rain or shine, snow or blizzard, "The mail must be delivered" was always his motto. His first car, a Maxwell, for delivering mail came about 1916. Horses were still used in the winter time changing teams half way through his route. In the mid 1930's he used a snowmobile with caterpillar type tracks on the rear wheels and skis on the front wheels of a model A Ford when roads were too bad for other travel. Not until the late 1 930's was the regular car used the year around.

 

Paul's winter hobbies were wood working, carving, and whittling. He cut and dried his own birch stumps for carving spoons, candleholders, vases and lamps. He also made many spinning wheels, tables, chairs, and other furniture. Pauline's hobbies were quilt making, knitting, crocheting and sewing. In the summer, their vegetable garden and flowers were their pride and joy.

 

For a short time in 1916-1917, Paul owned and operated a harness shop which he bought from Hans Rust, but later sold to H. O. Sletager. A restaurant was another venture Paul entered into with Carl Eid and Arne Elleraas for a brief period.

 

What fun it was to go visiting in those olden days, bundled up in blankets, heated rocks to keep the feet warm, sleighbells jingling as we skimmed over the snow in the cutter or going camping and fishing, or blue berrying in the summer—up hills and down, often having to get out and help the model T up a hill or out of a mud puddle!

 

Paul and Pauline Flaa had five children. Four of whom found their mates in Norman County.

 

Mrs. Lloyd (Louise) Nereson married a son of Nere Nereson's, Gary now of Thief River Falls, Minnesota.

 

Gladwin Luella— lived one day.

 

Mrs. Mandez (Inez) Thordal married a son of Oscar Thordal's, Gary.

 

Mrs. Ernest (Vernice) Danielson married a son of Oscar Danielson's, Twin Vailey, now of Grand Rapids, Minnesota.

 

Francis A. Flaa married Jeannine Anderson, daughter of T. M. Anderson, Gary. now of East Grand Forks.

 

Two nieces of Pauline Flaa's were also reared in their home. They are:

 

Marit Lystne Petrakis, South Pasadena, California and

 

Geneva Lystne Jacobson, Elgin, North Dakota

 

Norman County History Book

Contributed by Margit Bakke

 

 

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