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Ancestors of Christian Johansen Tanberg and wife Johanna

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Carla J Tweeton

Christian Johansen (Tanberg in America) was born between 5 and 14th of Dec. in Norderhov , Buskerud.  Norwegian church records and tombstone records in America differ.  His father being Johan Christiansen, born 1807; married Lisbet Pedersdtr. from Hole on 3 June 1842. 

Christian married a Johanne , born 22 Jan. , 1844 and died 22 Jan. 1915 in Wilkin county MN.  This is what her tombstone states.  I cannot find her parents in the church books of Norway.  Neither can I find a correct Johanna.  There is one possibility, that being a Johanna , born in 1844, baptized 1845.  Born to Engebret Nielsen and Anne Nielsdatter from Fjelstad.  This farm name was also listed as Christian Johannesens grandfather's place - Peder Olson Fjelstad.

 

I would appreciate any suggestions or answers if mine are incorrect!   Thank you.

 

Carla Tweeton

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Anne-Lise Hansen

I have found a Johanne, b, January 22 1844: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NH54-79K
Parents are Anders Jonassen Dahl and Anne Marie Nielsdtr.
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Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 10 (1837-1847), Fødte og døpte 1844, side 119.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1111&idx_id=1111&uid=ny&idx_side=-123
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051111050123.jpg
(no. 43)

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Her confirmation July 26 1859:

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 12 (1856-1865), Konfirmerte 1859, side 235.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1112&idx_id=1112&uid=ny&idx_side=-243
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051111050703.jpg

(no. 4)

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The family i 1865: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038084002618

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Anne-Lise Hansen

Her parents emigrates in 1873:

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 13 (1866-1874), Inn- og utflyttede 1873, side 493.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1113&idx_id=1113&uid=ny&idx_side=-441
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051111040441.jpg

(no. 79,80)

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The emigraton of Anders Jonassen:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000926546
his wife Anne Marie Nilsdtr:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000926547
with destination, St. Paul, Minnesota.

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Kari Sandberg

Their marriage Dec. 27, 1878, Otter Tail, Minn. ? Christen Tanberg - Johanne Andersen.

 

https://moms.mn.gov/Search?S=1

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Anne-Lise Hansen

In 1900 she is widowed and is living with her children in Manston, Mitchell, Roberts & Wolverton Townships, Wilkin, Minnesota: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M9QW-P9P

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Her husband had died January 11, 1890: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Tanberg&GSfn=Christen&GSby=1846&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=1890&GSdyrel=in&GSst=25&GScnty=1393&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=53490328&df=all&

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Anne-Lise Hansen

They are in Manston, Wilkin also in 1885 with nine children. Three of the children listed (15 and 8 yrs. old) are according to this born in Norway: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MQFM-TB9

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Anne-Lise Hansen

Anders Jonassen and Anne Marie Nilsdtr was wed August 14, 1837 in Norderhov: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NWW9-F7W

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Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 9 (1819-1837), Ekteviede 1837, side 914-915.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8536&idx_id=8536&uid=ny&idx_side=-453
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070314630095.jpg

(no. 25)

 

Bachelor, cotter Anders Jonassen Dahl: Præstegaards Eie, 27 years old and 'pike', Cotter's daughter Anne Marie Nilsdtr, servant at Bjerke for the districtphysician Hoffmann, 26 years old. 'Best men' were: Niels Andersen Follum Eie and Erik Nielsen Præstegaarden.

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Anne-Lise Hansen

Anders Jonassen Dahl christened October 7, 1810 in Norderhov:

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 6 (1789-1811), Fødte og døpte 1810, side 139.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8526&idx_id=8526&uid=ny&idx_side=-141
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070313660380.jpg

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Parents: Jonas Andersen Dal and Rönnov Olsdtr.

Sponsors: Anders Jensen, Anders Andersen, Hans Madsen's wife Anne Henrichsdtr, Berte Gulbrandsdtr, Maria Jensdtr.

(The mother introduced in church November 18.)

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Jonas Andersen 26 yrs. old in 1801 with parents Anders Thomesen and Kjerstie Gulbrandsdtr and a brother, Anders at Prestegaarden: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058270000280

 

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Anne-Lise Hansen

According to (several) trees Johanne had been married before with Niels Ingebretsen (b. about 1854):

http://www.geni.com/people/Nils-Ingebretson/6000000005083480886

 

I have been looking for this marriage in Norderhov from 1865-1873, without any luck. I found two siblings married in that period though:

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Johanne's brother, Johan (27 yrs) marries Anne Jørgine Gulbrandsdtr (Bjerke in Hole) December 11, 1866 in Norderhov:
Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 13 (1866-1874), Ekteviede 1866, side 336.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1113&idx_id=1113&uid=ny&idx_side=-298
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051111040298.jpg
(No. 51)

A sister, Karen Andersdtr Dahl plads, (22 yrs.) marries bachelor, tailor Kristen Johannessen (22 yrs.) December 6, 1867: Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 13 (1866-1874), Ekteviede 1867, side 344.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1113&idx_id=1113&uid=ny&idx_side=-306
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051111040306.jpg
(no. 58)
 

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Anne Tonby

Nils Engebretsen Weien og Johanne Andersdt Dahl får en sønn Nikolai døpt 27/8 1876 Tyristrand/Hole

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Tyristrand i Hole, Klokkerbok nr. II 1 (1859-1878), Fødte og døpte 1876, side 50.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8517&idx_id=8517&uid=ny&idx_side=-52

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070313630652.jpg

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Anne-Lise Hansen

Christian Johansen (Tanberg in America) was born between 5 and 14th of Dec. in Norderhov , Buskerud.  Norwegian church records and tombstone records in America differ.  His father being Johan Christiansen, born 1807; married Lisbet Pedersdtr. from Hole on 3 June 1842. 

(...)

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I have not found Christian's christening / baptism in 1846-1847, but I have found Christen Johansen, b. December 6, 1844, bapt. at home, and in church Marts 16, 1845 with the parents you have written:

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Klokkerbok nr. I 4 (1824-1849), Fødte og døpte 1845, side 392-393.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8530&idx_id=8530&uid=ny&idx_side=-225

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070314610111.jpg

(no. 5)

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Johan Christiansen Haga Eie and Lisbeth Pedersdatter's marriage:

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 10 (1837-1847), Ekteviede 1842, side 363.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1111&idx_id=1111&uid=ny&idx_side=-320

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051111050320.jpg

(no. 30)

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His confirmation June 19, 1859:

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 12 (1856-1865), Konfirmerte 1859, side 231.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1112&idx_id=1112&uid=ny&idx_side=-239

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051111050699.jpg

(no. 18)

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Johan Christiansen and Elisabeth Pedersdatter with five children at Klavaasen in 1865:

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038084004899

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Is this Christian/Christen?

Christian Johan(ne)sen (22 y), tailor at Qværnbergsundsödegaard in 1865: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038084004945

If this is 'your' Christen, it fits being born 1844/45.

 

Edited by Anne-Lise Hansen

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Carla J Tweeton

First, thank you to Anne for finding the birth of Nikolai in 1876.  In the 1885 census of Minnesota, there are also two children named Andrew and Mary, both 15 years old, born in Norway.  I searched backwards from 1876 but could not find these children if born to Johanne  ???

 

Then searching for Christian's parents, I found Johan Christensen, born about 1807, confirmed Oct. 1830 and married 3 June 1842.  His parents again listed as Christian Thoreson , born 12 Dec. 1762 and mother Ragnild Hansdatter from Fjeldseie  in Hole.  The parents to Christian Thorsen (Thorsteinsen) may be Tosten Thoresen and Maren Christianstr.

 

Johan Christensen married 3 June 1842 to Elizabeth (Lisbet) Pedersdtr., born or baptized 11 April 1813 in Hole Prgj.   Her parents may be Peder Olsen Fjelstad and Berte Marie Johansdtr.  Berte born 20 April 1782 in Eiker, Buskerud.  Her parents may be Johan Holland, gm 15 April 1781 to Christine Folkestad , also Eiker .There was a christening for _______Hoiland , 31 Oct. 1745 in Eiker.  The father was Ole Hoiland.

 

Thank you all for the previous help;   if you desire to find more, or some mistakes, I am humbly grateful.

 

Carla Tweeton

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Anne-Lise Hansen

First, thank you to Anne for finding the birth of Nikolai in 1876.  In the 1885 census of Minnesota, there are also two children named Andrew and Mary, both 15 years old, born in Norway.  I searched backwards from 1876 but could not find these children if born to Johanne  ???

(...)

 

In the Norderhov churchbooks I find that Johan Christensen Klavaasen ): Haga eie and Lisabeth Pedersdatter's son Jens,

tailor apprentice in Hönefoss, dies 19 3/4 yrs. old on October 1, buried October 10,1874:

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 13 (1866-1874), Døde og begravede 1874, side 440.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1113&idx_id=1113&uid=ny&idx_side=-406

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051111040406.jpg

(no. 108)

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I think there is a strong possibility that tailor Christen Johan(ne)sen, who was married to Karen Andersdtr. Dahl,

remarried her sister Johanne Andersdtr. Dahl. Their first child together must be Carl John, 6 yrs. old in 1885.

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I have only found one child of Johanne's sister Karen and her husband, tailor Kristen Johannessen born and christened in Norderhov -  

a daughter, Johanne Annette b. January 5, 1868:

 

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 13 (1866-1874), Fødte og døpte 1868, side 42.

Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1113&idx_id=1113&uid=ny&idx_side=-46

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051111040046.jpg

(No. 21)

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I have not found any other children of the couple, so I think they must have moved out from this area.

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Tom Larsen.

Jonas Andersen Dahl og Rønoug Olsdtr i innlegg 9.  har funnet følgende barn.

1. Kari  døpt 17/2-1805 Norderhov

2. Elie  døpt 18/5-1807 Norderhov,  komf. 1817

3. Kjerstie  døpt 30/8-1807 Norderhov

4. Anders  døpt 7/10-1810 Norderhov

5. Ole  døpt 27/6-1813 Norderhov

6. Ole  f.12/4,  døpt 27/4-1817 Norderhov

7. Gulbrand  f. 30/9,  døpt 26/12- 1821 Norderhov

 

Jonas Andersen Præstegaardseie og Rønnaug Olsdtr

8. Elling  f. 24/11,  døpt 16/3-1823 Norderhov

 

 

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Carla J Tweeton

Can any one help with emigration dates from Oslo to America for :

 

Christian Johannesen  Tanberg and wife Karen Andersdatter Dahl, born 1844 and 1843, with the daughter of Karen, Johanne Annette, born 1868  in Norway?    I have checked emigration lists from Norderhov and Hole with no luck.  But I could have missed them.

 

Also Johanne Andersdatter Dahl and her son, Nikolai.   Karen and  Johanne were most likely sisters.  Also their parents emigrated as mentioned above in another remark.  

 

Karen died in 1877 in Wilkin county and is buried by her father and another child, Karen Amelia Tanberg.  They are buried in Hamar Cemetery, Rothsay MN.

 

Then Christian marries Johanne and more children are born.

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Anne-Lise Hansen

Karen was Johanne's sister. She is born Marts (nor May) 2nd. 1846:

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 10 (1837-1847), Fødte og døpte 1846, side 164.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1111&idx_id=1111&uid=ny&idx_side=-168
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051111050168.jpg

(second Karen on the list)

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Two years off, but I have noticed that many immigrants to America not always use the correct year of birth, (they often become younger... :rolleyes: ), but the date is usually correct. If, however March was misinterpreted to May by her immigration, it was probably difficult to change it afterwards.

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I have not found them moving out in the church books either, but they may have emigrated from antother county.

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The emigrant lists are not complete. I have not found any of them in the lists here (DA): http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/sok/3, Norway Heritage: http://www.norwayheritage.com/, Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/searcher.php or Immigration lists to Quebec: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-quebec-port-1865-1900/Pages/search.aspx

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From Norway Heritage:

"If your ancestors were among those emigrating before 1853, you should have a good chance of finding them on a passenger list to New York or another US port. The Canadians did not begin the archiving of passenger lists before 1865 (for the port of Quebec). Norwegian records of emigrants did not start until 1867. This means that for the majority of Norwegian emigrants leaving from 1853 up to 1865, there are no surviving passenger lists."

http://www.norwayheritage.com/emigration-records.htm

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EDITED: :)

 

Here is the emigration of Karen Andersdatter Dahl and her two daughters, Johanne (2 y) and Maren (0,5 y) in July 1870:

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=60&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=18999&merk=18999#ovre

(the 'old' DA)

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The same entry in "new" DA: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000409368

Click 'Neste' (next) to see the children.

Edited by Anne-Lise Hansen

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Anne-Lise Hansen

Now I also found married tailor Kristen Johansen Hval travelling alone October 12th 1869 to Prescot with the ship S/S Scandinavian: :) http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=117&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=12107&merk=12107#ovre

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The same entry in 'new' DA: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000402476

Edited by Anne-Lise Hansen

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Ann-Mary Engum
Ann-Mary Engum
Johanna Andersdatter Dahl Found 10 Records, 9 Photos and 166,137 Family Trees

Born in Norway on 1844. Johanna Andersdatter married Nils Ingebretson and had 2 children. Johanna Andersdatter married Christen Tanberg and had 6 children. She passed away on 1915 in Rothsay, Manston Township, Minnesota, USA.

http://records.ancestry.com/johanna_andersdatter_dahl_records.ashx?pid=58521464


Nikolai Engebretsen

Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

birth: 23 July 1876   christening: 27 August 1876 Gol, Buskerud, Norway residence: 1876 Buskerud, Norway father: Nils Engebretsen mother: Johanne Andersdr

 

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Carla J Tweeton

Back to Anders Jonassen Dahl, father to Johanna Andersdatter and Karen Andersdatter, I am searching for the parents of Anders, born 1810 in Norderhov, Buskerud.  I have found a Jonas Andersen Dal, born about 1775.  And a possible mother for Anders that might be Rönnov Olsdatter , born ca 1774.   Then I found that Ronau might(?) be the child of Ole Pedersen and Kari Olsdatter.  This was on a page called 15th Sunday after Trinitatis. 

 

At times it gets pretty confusing to read the Pastor's notes when they are written so close.  If anyone wishes to correct or add to my possibilities, I again say Thank You.  Rönnov is a new name to me.

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Anne-Lise Hansen

I will look for Jonas' christening. His father is probably Anders Thomesen according to the 1801 census. He is in his second marriage, and Jonas may have another mother than his father's wife.: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058270000280

 

Jonas' first two daughters were calles Kari and Elie, (see post #15 from Tom Larsen) and these names may be the names of the parents' mothers.

 

There is a guide also translated to English on how to make permanent links to the church books: http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/183464-hvordan-lage-en-fungerende-lenke-fra-en-kirkebokside-en-kort-veiledning/#entry1557019

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Anne-Lise Hansen

Rönau (Rönoug, Rönaug, Rönnov, Rönnaug) Olsd. christened 15 th Sunday after Trinitatis = September 24th 1775 in Wiiger church:

 

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1775-1789), Kronologisk liste 1775, side 14.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8525&idx_id=8525&uid=ny&idx_side=-16
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070313660016.jpg

 

(The page to the right)

 

Parents: Ole Pedersen and Kari Olsd. Well, that is one of the names of the daughters. :)

 

Jonas' mother is perhaps called Elie...?

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Ecclestical dates calendar: http://trinitatis.no/

(Put in the year.)

Edited by Anne-Lise Hansen

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Anne-Lise Hansen

I found Jonas christened in The main church (Norderhov?) 20th  Sunday after Trinitatis = October 29th 1775:

 

Kildeinformasjon: Buskerud fylke, Norderhov, Ministerialbok nr. 5 (1775-1789), Kronologisk liste 1775, side 17.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8525&idx_id=8525&uid=ny&idx_side=-19
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070313660019.jpg

 

(Left page)  Parents: Anders Thomesen and Elie Ellensd.

One of the sponsors is Christen Dal.

Edited by Anne-Lise Hansen

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Anne-Lise Hansen

I notice that I am the only one who subscribe to this topic.

 

The default settings to subscribe to topics one starts (or participates in) and that it should be sent out notification about new postings, are accidentally 'erased', so both old and new users must reset the settings. See how (also in English): http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/179082-tips-om-ulike-funksjoner-og-redigeringsmuligheter-i-forumene-paa-digitalarkivet/#entry1525505

 

Here it sais:

Noticfication of new replies in topics you follow
To receive e-mail notification of new posts in threads you participate in, it is necessary to check if this is correctly set here:
http://forum.arkivverket.no/index.php?app=core&module=usercp&tab=core&area=notificationshttp://forum.arkivve...a=notifications

Tick ​​for email notification method for the replies in topics  [Varslingsmetode for svar til fulgte emner]
and also tick for 'Subscribe to all topics I post replies in'. [Abonner på emner jeg svarer i]

Further down on this page, you set how to be notified of PM - personal messages, and here it is recommended to have both MSG-list and e-mail ticked.

 

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