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Brothers Albert Emil Sundby(e) and Carl Fredrik Sundby(e) of Oslo

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Tybring Hemphill

I have tried to trace all nine of the children of Ole Larsen Sundby(e) (1815-Jan 21, 1896 Domkirken ) and Petronelle Amundsdatter (1816-Aug 27, 1897 Johannes) and have largely succeeded, but cannot trace what became of Albert Emil Sundby born Sept. 25, 1842 or Carl Fredrik Sundby born Dec 26, 1859.  I have been told that neither one has a dødsannons in Aftenposten and cannot find Carl Fredrik after the 1865 census and cannot find Albert in any census (although it appears that he was alive in about 1862 when a family photograph was taken).  There is a Carl Fredrik Sundby in prison in Trondheim in 1900, but it appears the birth date does not match.  Albert was already an adult aged 23.  I am wondering if perhaps Albert emigrated somewhere, and perhaps Carl Fredrik died young, but do not know how I might check those hypotheses.  Is there any way to try to locate the will/estate (skifte) of Ole Larsen Sundby to see if these children were alive at the time he died?  Any suggestions would be gratefully accepted.  Tybring

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Inge Nygård

"Dødsfallsprotokollen" in 1896 mentions 6 children; 3 in Oslo, 1 in Christiansand, 1 in Sogn and 1 in America, plus a son of a dead son (no. 190): 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo skifterett, Dødsfallsprotokoll A 17 , 1895-1897, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.

Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27264/119/

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-sk20090513380461.jpg

 

Her er dødsfallprotokollen fra 1897 (no. 2304):

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo skifterett, Dødsfallsprotokoll A 18 , 1897-1899, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.

Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27265/15/

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-sk20090513380708.jpg

 

Skiftet etter Petronelle (right hand side):

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo skifterett, Skifteutlodningsprotokoll A 18 (SAO/A-10383/H/Hd/Hda/L0018), 1897-1898, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.

Merknader: Alfabetisk register

Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/34293/381/

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-sk10051010201386.jpg

 

 

 

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Sven Hjortland

Carl Frederik died January 27th, 1867:

 

No. 110 Carl Frederik Sundbye.       Father Ole Larsen Sundbye

 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo skifterett, Dødsfallsprotokoll A 7 , 1864-1870, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.

Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/25422/129/

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-sk20081219310554.jpg

 

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Tybring Hemphill

 

"Dødsfallsprotokollen" in 1896 mentions 6 children; 3 in Oslo, 1 in Christiansand, 1 in Sogn and 1 in America, plus a son of a dead son (no. 190): 

Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo skifterett, Dødsfallsprotokoll A 17 , 1895-1897, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.

Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/27264/119/

Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-sk20090513380461.jpg

 

 

 

Dear Inge, thank you very much for your helpful answer.  I am descended from the son of the dead son.  This is the first sign I have seen that indeed one of the children went to America.  Are there list of emigrants that one can look for?  

 

So it is probably Carl Fredrik who has died between 1865 when he was 6 years old in the census and the 1875 census when he would have been 6 years old.  Two sisters Martine Louise and Laura Emilie were still living with their parents in 1885, but I cannot find Laura in the 1900 census, so perhaps she is one of the two other children who have died by the time their father dies in 1896.  A Martine with a similar birthdate seems to be living on her own and unmarried in 1900.  Are the names of the living children recorded in any document?  Is there any way of finding the deaths of Carl Fredrik and Laura other than looking through all of the death records and hoping that they are in the Domkirke?   Thank you.

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Tybring Hemphill

The names of the children are listed in the probate (folio 366b): http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/34293/382/

That is amazing, Inge, what you have found.  Is there an index to these books?

 

Do you know what kind of emigrant records there are from Norway that might help me figure out where Albert Emil went to in America?  Thanks.

 

Tybring

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Thank you, Sven for the help.  Using that date I was able to find the death/burial of Carl Fredrik in the Domkirke churchbook..  I am now trying to find what happened to Albert Emil - when did he emigrate?  It must have been before 1897 when his father died.  I have tried to find him on Familysearch, but so far without success.

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I have seen that there is an emigration section on Digitalarkivet, but Albert Emil Sundby does not show up there.  It looks like most of the emigrants listed there left in the late 1800s or early 1900s, whereas it seems likely that Albert Emil left before 1865 since he is not in that census.

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