Tollof Thoreson born 1840 - 1842

[Susan Derry]

We are looking for information on my husband's maternal great grandfather, Tollof Thoreson born between 1840 to 1842. He was married to Olia Halverson on 18 May 1871 in Wisconsin, United States. So he emigrated to the US prior to 1871. We have his birth date as 21 April, but do not have proof of that date. We also do not know where in Norway he was born. 

 

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Thanks. 

[Trude Nilsen]

I found a Tollef Thoresen in 1865 cencus.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038097002487

 

In english

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038097002487

Endret Januar 15, 2018 av Trude Nilsen

[Richard Johan Natvig]

1 time siden, Trude Nilsen skrev:

I found a Tollef Thoresen in 1865 cencus.

He was born 17 June 1840, no 18 here:

SAKO, Rollag kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0007: Ministerialbok nr. I 7, 1828-1847, s. 77
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061116030215

 

Confirmed June 3 1855, no 21 here:

SAKO, Rollag kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0008: Ministerialbok nr. I 8, 1847-1860, s. 168
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111031102

 

 

 

 

[Trude Nilsen]

Even if the 1865 census does not say Tollef is the son of Thore and Gunhild, I belieee he is. I see that both Helga and Gunhild is their children too. 

 

Birth of Tollef no. 80  https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/7764/39025/76

Birth of Helga no. 134  https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/7764/39025/89

Birth of Gunhild nr. 19  https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/1120/7177/18

 

 

[Trude Nilsen]

Information from mittnumedal.no : Frå 1841 til året 1900 utvandra i alt 1 821 personar frå Rollag og Veggli.

In English: From 1841 to the year 1900 all together 1821 people emigrated from Rollag and Veggli. (to America)

[Richard Johan Natvig]

The Tollef Thoresen that Trude found (#2) may very well be the right man. The local history Rollag bygdebok: ætt og gard og grend, by Knut Hoff, vol. 1, p. 92:

 

 

"Tollef... b. 17.6.1840, unmarried [i.e. as long as he lived in Norway]. He owned Skavlemstugo [a small farm/homestead, I suppose] and was one of the few Norwegians who participated on the Danish side in the war between Denmark and Prussia 1864–65. Emigrated to USA."

 

This confirms that the Tollef in in #2-3-4 emigrated to the US, unfortunately it does not give a date for his emigration.

 

According to this book, an older brother of his, Tore/Thore b. 1834, also emigrated to the USA, in 1865. Tore married in USA Ingebjørg Liarjordet b. 1843.

 

 

 

Endret Januar 15, 2018 av Richard Johan Natvig

[Trude Nilsen]

2 minutter siden, Richard Johan Natvig skrev:

Stine found (#2)

??  ;-)

[Richard Johan Natvig]

1 minutt siden, Trude Nilsen skrev:

4 minutter siden, Richard Johan Natvig skrev:

Stine found (#2)

??  ;-)

Beklager Trude, du såg det raskare enn eg klarte å retta tabben min. Kortslutting i hjernen.

[Trude Nilsen]

According to Rollag bygdebok - Between 1839 and 1903, 82 people from the farm Bogstrand, and the 5 farms that belonged to Bogstrand, emigrated to America.

 

List of Emigrants in Rollag bygdebok: ætt og gard og grend, by Knut Hoff, vol. 1, p. 110 and 111.

 

 

 

 

[Susan Derry]

Thank you Trude and Richard. :)

[Stine H Kvistad]

The brother lived in Iowa 1874.

Name:	Thore Thoresen
Gender:	Male
Event Type:	Marriage
Birth Place:	Rollang
Marriage Date:	6 Nov 1874
Marriage Place:	Clayton, Iowa, USA
Father:	Thore Knudsen
Mother:	Gunnild Olsen
Spouse:	Ingeborg Danielsdatter
Church Name:	Marion Lutheran Church
Church Location:	Elgin, Iowa

[Dag Thorsdalen]

Susan, according to the information about Tollef here:

I'm afraid the Tollef mentioned above is another man then the one you are looking for. The local history, Rollag bygdebok, also book mentions him under Stavlemsstugo (vol. II p. 220: https://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/9d4afe1d56d570d135714fc83cd13b81?index=3#223

 

Sitat

1872 Først hadde Anstein Halvors. Bogstrandeiet eigedomen 1 år, så Tollef Toresen Bogstrand fram til 1886 da han drog til Amerika. Han var ein av dei få nordmennene som deltok på dansk side i krigen mot Preussen 1864-1865.

 

That is: 1872 First Anstein Halvorsen Bogstrandeiet was the owner for 1 year, then Tollef Toresen Bogstand until 1886 when he went to America. He was among the few Norwegians who fought on the Danish side in the 1864-1865 war against Preussia.

 

This Tollef headed for his brother Tore's home place in Elgin, Iowa in 1887: https://digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000001013139

 

Thus, he could impossibly have been the same man who married for the second time in Wisconsin i 1871 and according to the 1880 US Census then still lived there.

[Dag Thorsdalen]

A number of other candidates from familysearch.org:

 

Name	Tollef Toresen
Gender	Male
Birth Date	31 Jul 1839
Christening Date	29 Sep 1839
Christening Place	NORDERHOV,BUSKERUD,NORWAY
Father's Name	Thor Olsen
Mother's Name	Gjetrud Iversdr

 

Name	Tellef Toresen
Gender	Male
Birth Date	15 Sep 1840
Christening Date	18 Oct 1840
Christening Place	, OYESTAD, AUST-AGDER, NORWAY
Father's Name	Thor Thallakssen
Mother's Name	Ingeborg Pedersdr

 

Name	Tollef Toresen
Gender	Male
Birth Date	10 Mar 1841
Christening Date	21 Mar 1841
Christening Place	, BORRE, VESTFOLD, NORWAY
Father's Name	Thor Olsen
Mother's Name	Haldis Tollefsdr

 

Name	Tollef Toresen
Gender	Male
Birth Date	15 Mar 1842
Christening Date	03 Apr 1842
Christening Place	Gol, Buskerud, Norway
Father's Name	Tore Pedersen
Mother's Name	Ingeri Tollefsdr

 

Name	Tollef Thoresen
Gender	Male
Birth Date	26 Sep 1843
Christening Date	08 Oct 1843
Christening Place	Domkirken, Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway
Father's Name	Thore Olsen
Mother's Name	Inge Karine Tollefsdr

 

Name	Tollef Toresen
Gender	Male
Birth Date	18 Feb 1844
Christening Date	21 Feb 1844
Christening Place	KLEPP,ROGALAND,NORWAY
Death Date	1844
Father's Name	Thore Tollefsen
Mother's Name	Grethe Malene Pedersdr

 

Name	Tallef Toresen
Gender	Male
Birth Date	18 Jun 1844
Christening Date	26 Jul 1844
Christening Place	, KVITESEID, TELEMARK, NORWAY
Father's Name	Thor Svendsen
Mother's Name	Kari Halvorsdr

 

Unfortunately, this database isn't complete. Therefore, we cannot know whether it has brought forward all candidates.

[Dag Thorsdalen]

To me the first candidate seems to be a plausible one.

 

He was born out of wedlock.

Father: widower Thor Olsen Flaskerud

Mother: unmarried girl Gjertrud Svendsdatter Haukedalen

SAKO, Norderhov kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. 10, 1837-1847, s. 38 (#174): https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111050805

This is in Lunder Parish, Norderhov, now a part of the municipalty of Ringerike.

 

On May 1st 1864 he married Inger Henriksdatter

SAKO, Norderhov kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0012: Ministerialbok nr. 12, 1856-1865, s. 338 (no 14)): https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111050805

 

At the Census of 1865 (on New year's eve) Inger lived alone as a married servant: https://digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038084006358

 

On April 8th 1866 they registered their emigration to North America:

SAKO, Norderhov kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0013: Ministerialbok nr. 13, 1866-1874, s. 471 (no 124 and 125): https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111040419 

 

This record includes a noth that the husband had travelled a few years in advance.

Endret Januar 16, 2018 av Dag Thorsdalen

[Stine H Kvistad]

I found him in Sør-Aurdal, Oppland, born 21 Apr 1837, born to Reier Toresen and Berte Torsdatter. Espelideie?

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/255/pd00000003401845

 

 

Name:Tollef Rejersen

Gender:Male

Birth Date:21 apr 1837

Baptism Date:7 mai 1837 (7 May 1837)

Baptism Place:Sør-Aurdal, Oppland, Norway

Father:Rejer Tonesen

Mother:Berit Tonsdr

 

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9380/90

 

Married 31 Aug 1862, Perry, Dane, Wisconsin to Ragnhild Olsdatter. Olia was his third wife

 

 

 

[Stine H Kvistad]

Second marriage, also in Dane, Wisconsin, 8 Dec 1866 to Kari Halvorsdatter. 

 

[Stine H Kvistad]

These are the siblings 

 

Record Sor Aurdal, Oppland, Norway 

Name   Birth Date        Baptism Date   Baptism Place 

            Kari Reiersdr 16 des 1840        31 jan 1841   ReierBerte

            Christian Reiersen feb 1843   12 feb 1843    Reier, Berthe

            Tallef Reiersen            25 feb 1849    9 apr 1849       Reier, Berthe

            Peder Reiersen            18 jun 1845     20 jul 1845      Reier, Berthe

 

Berthe Thorsdatter Espeseteie 1818-1891

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9373/21

 

Marriage no 3

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9380/189

 

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/179460414/bertha-thoreson

 

Reier Thoreson 1808-1897.  

 

Name

Reier Thoreson

Birth

Abt 1809 Norway

Residence

1880 Moscow, Iowa, Wisconsin, USA

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/158227308/reier-thoreson

 

Christian Thoreson 1843-1919

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/167148590/christian-thoreson

 

Name:	Reier Thorson
Probate Date:	18 Feb 1904
Probate Place:	Dane, Wisconsin, USA
Inferred Death Year:	Abt 1904
Inferred Death Place:	Wisconsin, USA
Item Description:	Probate Records, Box 227, Porter-U - Box 229, B-Foley

[Stine H Kvistad]

On Herman A Thoreson and his father Tollef Thoreson

 

Link to the probate on Ancestry

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/9088/007711104_01435?pid=667959&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D9088%26h%3D667959%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DaVl7363%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=aVl7363&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

[Susan Derry]

Wow! Thank you. :)