Lars E. Øyane Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Eg har fått opplyst frå Amerika at: John Borell skal vera fødd i Sverige 3.10.1857. Foreldri hans er ukjende, men han skal ha utvandra til Florida i 1882 eller kanskje i 1883. Er det mogeleg ut ifrå desse opplysningane å få greie på/stadfesta: ** Fullt svensk namn? ** Dato og stad for fødsli? ** Utvandringsåret? ** Fulle namn på foreldri hans samt yrke, bustad og opphav? Eg takkar so mykje på førehand for alle gode tips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann-Mary Engum Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) Legger inn noen lenker. John Borell United States Census, 1900 Name John Borell Event Type Census Event Year 1900 Event Place Precinct 4, Paola & Precincts 12-13, Zellwood, Bay Ridge, Orange, Florida, United States Gender Male Age 43 Marital Status Married Race White Race (Original) W Relationship to Head of Household Head Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head Years Married 7 Marriage Year (Estimated) 1893 Immigration Year 1883 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace John Borell Head M 43 Sweden Christine Borelli Wife F 30 Norway https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M368-9DV View the original document. ---- John Borell United States Census, 1920 Name John Borell Event Type Census Event Date 1920 Event Place Paola, Seminole, Florida, United States Gender Male Age 62 Marital Status Married Race White Race (Original) White Can Read Yes Can Write Yes Relationship to Head of Household Head Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head Own or Rent Own Birth Year (Estimated) 1858 Birthplace Sweden Immigration Year 1882 Father's Birthplace Sweden Mother's Birthplace Sweden Sheet Letter A Sheet Number 5 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace John Borell Head M 62 Sweden Christene Borell Wife F 49 Norway Woodard Bartleson Nephew M 11 Florida https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNBZ-NQK View the original document. ---- John Borell United States Census, 1930 Name John Borell Event Type Census Event Date 1930 Event Place Sanford, Seminole, Florida, United States Gender Male Age 57 Marital Status Married Race White Race (Original) White Relationship to Head of Household Head Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1873 Birthplace Sweden Immigration Year 1882 Father's Birthplace Sweden Mother's Birthplace Sweden Sheet Letter A Sheet Number 1 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace John Borell Head M 57 Sweden Christine Borell Wife F 60 Norway Woodard Borell Nephew M 21 Florida https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:S1S4-93Z ---- John Borel Florida State Census, 1935 Name John Borel Gender Male Precinct Number 004 Precinct Paola, Seminole, Florida Residence Place Sanford, Seminole, Florida Age (Formatted) 77y Birth Year (Estimated) 1858 Birthplace , , Sweden Race (Original) White Race White Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Husband Relationship to Head of Household Husband Household Role Sex Age Birthplace John Borel M 77y , , Sweden Christine Borel Wife F 65y , , Norway Ernest T Landress Father M 46y , , Georgia Herbert Landress Son M 21y , , Georgia Hazel Landress Daughter F 19y , , Georgia E T Landress Junior Son M 13y , , Georgia Irene Landress Daughter F 12y , , Georgia Connie Landress Daughter F 8y , , Georgia Clifford Landress Son M 4y , , Georgia https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNKH-66W View the original document. Edited June 14, 2018 by Ann-Mary Engum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Egil Johannessen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann-Mary Engum Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) ? John Borell Florida Marriages, 1837-1974 marriage: 2 October 1892 Orange Co., Florida spouse: Bertha Christina Bertelsson https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FWWZ-G4 ---- John Borell mentioned in the record of John Borell and Bertha Christina Bertelsson Name John Borell Event Type Marriage Event Date 02 Oct 1892 Event Place , Orange, Florida, United States Gender Male Marital Status Unknown Birthplace of New Upsala, Florida Spouse's Name Bertha Christina Bertelsson Spouse's Gender Female Spouse's Marital Status Single Spouse's Birthplace of New Upsala, Florida https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW9K-H5S View the original document. Edited June 14, 2018 by Ann-Mary Engum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann-Mary Engum Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 15 minutter siden, Sven Hjortland skrev: John E. Borell Birth: Oct. 3, 1857, Sweden Death: Aug. 27, 1943 Seminole County Florida, USA 1900 Federal Census Orange County, Florida John Borell Oct 1857 42/ Sweden Immigration year 1883 Christine Borell Apr 1870 30/Norway Immigration year 1871 Married 1893 1920 Federal Census Paola, Seminole County, Florida John Borell 62 Sweden/Farm Laborer - orange groves Immigration year 1882 Christine 49 Norway Woodard Bartleson 11/Nephew Florida/Farm Laborer-Orange groves. 1930 Federal Census Sanford, Seminole County, Florida John 57 born/Sweden Christine 60 Norway Woolard 21/Nephew Florida Florida Death Index 1877 - 1998 John Borell 1943 Seminole County, Florida Family links: Spouse: Christine Borell (____ - 1961)* *Calculated relationship Burial: Upsala Swedish Cemetery Sanford Seminole County Florida, USA Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?] Created by: Vivian (Dannelly) Alcott Record added: Feb 23, 2009 Find A Grave Memorial# 34140792 https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=borell&GSfn=john&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=34140792&df=all& Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann-Mary Engum Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Ser at han er dobbelt registrert på Find a grave. John Borell Birth: Oct. 3, 1857, Sweden Death: Aug. 27, 1943 Florida, USA Family links: Spouse: Christine Bertelson Borell (1870 - 1961)* *Calculated relationship Burial:New Upsala Cemetery Seminole County Florida, USA Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?] Created by: Sanford Museum Record added: Jan 10, 2008 Find A Grave Memorial# 23891277 https://old.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=borell&GSfn=john&GSbyrel=all&GSdy=1943&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=23891277&df=all& Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Johan Erik Borells foreldre skal være Lars Eric Borell, født 21. juni 1834 i Nora og Eva Charlotta Rolin født 26. april 1835 i Kihl Finner ikke disse på FS, men her er familien på MH https://www.myheritage.no/research/collection-10180/svenske-husholdningsundersokelser-1860-1930?s=211364211&itemId=75944347-&groupId=abf6e15fe47217c436e48772dc804e09&action=showRecord&recordTitle=Lars+Eric+Borell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann-Mary Engum Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 ? Lars Eric Borell Sweden Baptisms Name Lars Eric Borell Gender Male Christening Date 24 Jun 1834 Christening Place Nora, Örebro, Sweden Birth Date 21 Jun 1834 Father's Name Olof Borell Mother's Name Lisa Larsdr https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FKX4-QMR ---- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann-Mary Engum Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) ? Lars Erik Borell mentioned in the record of Lars Erik Borell and Karolina Persdotter Birth Date 1834 Spouse's Birth Date 1845 Event Date 23 May 1874 Event Place Viker, Örebro, Sweden https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FKXR-5MH ---- Lars Er. Borell Sweden, Household Examination Books Name Lars Er. Borell Event Type Census Event Place Viker, Örebro, Sverige Event Place (Original) Viker, Orebro, Sweden Marital Status Married Birth Date 21 Jun 1834 Birthplace N:a Death Date 13 Apr 1875 Volume AI 1 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLPX-1F7N View the original document. ---- Lars Erik Borell Sweden Burials Name Lars Erik Borell Gender Male Burial Date 21 Nov 1875 Burial Place Viker, Örebro, Sweden Death Date 14 Nov 1875 Age 41 Birth Date 1834 Marital Status Married https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FKL1-MP6 Edited June 14, 2018 by Ann-Mary Engum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann-Mary Engum Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) Ida Borell Sweden Baptisms, 1611-1920 birth: 15 January 1875 christening: 31 January 1875 Viker, Örebro, Sweden residence: 1875 Viker, Örebro, Sweden father: Lars Erik Borell mother: Karolina Persdotter ---- Mora gift på nytt? Ida Borell Sweden, Household Examination Books Name Ida Borell Event Type Census Event Place Viker, Örebro, Sverige Event Place (Original) Viker, Orebro, Sweden Birth Date 15 Jan 1875 Birthplace Viker Death Date - Volume AI 1 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Israel Israelsson U N:a Karolina Persdt:R U N:a Anna Lovisa Persdt:R U N:a Ida Borell U Viker Alfred U Viker Emil Severin U Viker https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLPX-BKWQ View the original document. ---- Karolina Persdotter mentioned in the record of Israel Israelsson and Karolina Persdotter Birth Date 1850 Spouse's Birth Date 1845 Event Date 27 Oct 1877 Event Place Viker, Örebro, Sweden https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FKXR-2ZD ---- Alfred Israelsson Sweden Baptisms, 1611-1920 birth: 18 July 1878 christening: 11 August 1878 Viker, Örebro, Sweden residence: 1878 Viker, Örebro, Sweden father: Israel Israelsson mother: Karolina Persdotter ---- Emil Severin Israelsson Sweden Baptisms, 1611-1920 birth: 19 July 1880 christening: 6 August 1880 Viker, Örebro, Sweden residence: 1880 Viker, Örebro, Sweden father: Israel Israelsson mother: Carolina Persdotter ---- Frida Carolina Israelsson Sweden Baptisms, 1611-1920 birth: 26 August 1884 christening: 14 October 1884 Viker, Örebro, Sweden residence: 1884 Viker, Örebro, Sweden father: Israel Israelsson mother: Carolina Persdotter ---- Ellen Helena Israelsson Sweden Baptisms, 1611-1920 birth: 6 June 1887 christening: 22 July 1887 Viker, Örebro, Sweden residence: 1887 Viker, Örebro, Sweden father: Israel Israelsson mother: Carolina Persdotter ---- Ida Borell Sweden, Household Examination Books Name Ida Borell Event Type Census Event Place Kumla, Örebro, Sverige Event Place (Original) Kumla, Orebro, Sweden Birth Date 15 Jan 1875 Birthplace Wiker Örebro l. Death Date - Volume AI 24b Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Ida Borell U Wiker Örebro l. Oskar Henning Child U Kumla Erik Hugo Child U Kumla Gustaf Birger Dahlström U Siklaö https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLPW-HDT1 View the original document. ---- Ida Borell Sweden, Household Examination Books Name Ida Borell Event Type Census Event Date 1897 - 1914 Event Place Sura, Västmanland, Sverige Event Place (Original) Sura, Västmanlands, Sweden Birth Date 15 Jan 1875 Birthplace Viker Örebro l. Death Date - Volume AIIa 1d Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Ida Borell U Viker Örebro l. Henning Teodor Child U St. Ilian. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QG5P-GYM1 View the original document. ---- Ida Borell Sweden, Household Examination Books Name Ida Borell Event Type Census Event Date 1897 - 1904 Event Place Västmanland, Sverige Event Place (Original) Sankt, Västmanlands, Sweden Birth Date 15 Jun 1875 Birthplace Viker Örebro l. Death Date - Volume Ilian AIIa 1 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Ida Borell U Viker Örebro l. Hedvig Teodor Child U St. Ilian Hilma Edvin Alb. Pettersson U Badelunda Edit Gustafson U Sundby https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QG5P-RM59 View the original document. ---- Ida Borell Sweden, Household Examination Books Name Ida Borell Event Type Census Event Date 1900 - 1904 Event Place Västerås, Västmanland, Sverige Event Place (Original) Västerås, Västmanlands, Sweden Birth Date 15 Jan 1875 Birthplace Viker Death Date - Volume Domkyrkoförsamling AIIa 6 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Ida Borell U Viker Henning Teodor U St. Ilian https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QG5P-15LB View the original document. ---- Ida Borell Sweden, Household Examination Books Name Ida Borell Event Type Census Event Date 1910 - 1915 Event Place Västerhaninge, Stockholm, Sverige Event Place (Original) Västerhaninge, Stockholms, Sweden Birth Date 15 Jan 1875 Birthplace Wiker Örebro Death Date - Volume AIIa3 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLP1-KJMM View the original document. Edited June 14, 2018 by Ann-Mary Engum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars E. Øyane Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Hjarteleg takk til Ann-Mary og Sven for mange spennande og interessante innlegg! Eg har gått igjennom dei innkomne opplysningane, og eg kan endå ein gong slå fast at eg har fått svar på det aller meste. So vidt eg kan sjå, står no følgjande detaljar òpne hjå meg: ** Kva yrke hadde Lars Eric Borell? ** Kva heitte far til Eva Charlotta Rolin (Johan Erik Borell's mor), fødd i Kihl, som vel er i Varmlands län(?) 26.4.1835? Ein ny kjempetakk for framifrå bistand til kompletteringi av ein spennande emigrantbiografi! Edited June 15, 2018 by Lars E. Øyane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vibeke Lund Åhling Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) Johan Borell i Rotemansarkivet: "bergsprängare" fra 1878 (når han flyttet til Stockholm) til 1881, da det står "arbetskarl". Emigrasjon 1882. Inflyttet fra Vikers kapellsogn, Örebro län. Födt i Nora, Örebro län. Vikers socken og församling tilkom da Nora Bergsförsamling blev delt i 1868. Församlingen blev i 1874 sammenslått igjen som anneks, og inkorporert som del i Nora Bergsförsamling i 2010. Eva Charlotta Rolins far var dagkarl. (Og det er mindst to Kil i Sverige; dette er Kil i Örebro län.) Lars Eric Borell f. i Nora Bergsförsamling, far Olof Borell afl. Gruffogde Dalkarlsgrufvan, mor H. Lisa Larsdotter. (Farens navn er vansklig å lese i HFL södra delen Nora Bergsförsamling 1828-1841, side 245, men jeg tror at det står Olof Ersson Borell, f. i Kihl 1/9 1802, d. i Dalkarlsberg i Nora Bergsförsamling 31/12 1833.) (Mor Lisa Larsdotter f. Nora 16/5 1800.) Hun har to eldre döttre med annet farsnavn i HFL, og så 4 Borell-barn, så godt mulig at det er 2. ekteskap.) Lars Eric Borell er gruvarbeider ved sönnen Johan Erics födsel. Edited June 16, 2018 by Vibeke Lund Åhling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann-Mary Engum Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) 18 minutter siden, Vibeke Lund Åhling skrev: Johan Borell i Rotemansarkivet: "bergsprängare" fra 1878 (når han flyttet til Stockholm) til 1881, da det står "arbetskarl". Emigrasjon 1882. Inflyttet fra Vikers kapellsogn, Örebro län. Födt i Nora, Örebro län. Vikers socken og församling tilkom da Nora Bergsförsamling blev delt i 1868. Församlingen blev i 1874 sammenslått igjen som anneks, og inkorporert som del i Nora Bergsförsamling i 2010. Eva Charlotta Rolins far var dagkarl. (Og det er mindst to Kil i Sverige; dette er Kil i Örebro län.) Lars Eric Borell f. i Nora Bergsförsamling, far Olof Borell afl. Gruffogde Dalkarlsgrufvan, mor H. Lisa Larsdotter. (Farens navn er vansklig å lese i HFL södra delen Nora Bergsförsamling 1828-1841, side 245, men jeg tror at det står Olof Ersson Borell, f. i Kihl 1/9 1802, d. i Dalkarlsberg i Nora Bergsförsamling 31/12 1833.) (Mor Lisa Larsdotter f. Nora 16/5 1800.) Hun har to eldre döttre med annet farsnavn i HFL, og så 4 Borell-barn, så godt mulig at det er 2. ekteskap.) Lars Eric Borell Sweden Baptisms, 1611-1920 birth: 21 June 1834 christening: 24 June 1834 Nora, Örebro, Sweden residence: 1834 Nora, Örebro, Sweden father: Olof Borell mother: Lisa Larsdr ---- Christina Borell Sweden Baptisms, 1611-1920 birth: 26 April 1828 christening: 27 April 1828 Nora stads- och bergsförsamling, Nora, Örebro, Sweden residence: 1828 Nora, Örebro, Sweden father: Olof Ersson Borell mother: Lisa Larsdr ---- Anna Sophia Borell Sweden Baptisms, 1611-1920 birth: 28 July 1829 christening: 30 July 1829 Nora stads- och bergsförsamling, Nora, Örebro, Sweden residence: 1829 Nora, Örebro, Sweden father: Olof Ersson Borell mother: Lisa Larsdr ---- Carolina Borell Sweden Baptisms, 1611-1920 birth: 19 December 1831 christening: 22 December 1831 Nora stads- och bergsförsamling, Nora, Örebro, Sweden residence: 1831 Nora, Örebro, Sweden father: Olof Ersson Borell mother: Lisa Larsdr ---- Går ikke god for innholdet! Anna Borell - Historical records and family trees - MyHeritage https://www.myheritage.com/names/anna_borell Olof was born on September 1 1802, in Boxboda, Kihl, Sweden. ... Anna Sophia Borell was born on month day 1829, to Olof Ersson Borell and Lisa Larsdr. ---- Olof Ersson Borell Print Family Tree Sosa : 50 Born 1 September 1802 - Boxboda, Kihl, Sweden Baptized 5 September 1802 Deceased 31 December 1833 - Nora, Orebro, Sweden , age at death: 31 years old Buried 12 January 1834 Spouses and children Married 19 February 1828, Berge, Nora, Orebro, Sweden, to Lisa Larsdotter 1800- with Christina Borell 1828-1828 Anna Sophia Borell 1829- Carolina Borell 1831- Lars Eric Borell 1834-1875 Notes Individual Note BIRTH:Birth Record; GS ser# 29586; pt 8; page 244; 1802 births Father Eric Jacobsson Mother: Christina Larsdotter Boxboda I have written down on a pedigree chart that Eric Jacobsson was born 3 Dec 1775 in Nora, Orebro and that Christine Larsdotter was bron on 20 July 1763 also in Nora. There is no verification of that information. This is a good place to start checking. Clerical survey; GS ser no. 20689; pt 16; page 245 New serial number is 149719 MARRIAGE: church record; GS ser no 149727; Nora marriages ; place Berge'; lists Olof Ersson of Dahlkersberg; 25 years old and Lisa Larsdotter of Shrikarhydttan; 27 years old; His first marriage, her second DEATH: GS ser no 149729; church record; Nora deaths, 1833, No 158 -- GEDCOM (FAM) -- 1 SLGS 2 DATE 2 DEC 1994 2 TEMP PROVO Family Tree Preview Descendancy Chart Family Tree owner : Loretta HARBERTSON (lorettaharbertson) Contact Family History : Family Events Statistics https://gw.geneanet.org/lorettaharbertson?n=borell&oc=&p=lars+eric Edited June 16, 2018 by Ann-Mary Engum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars E. Øyane Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 Hjarteleg takk til Vibeke og Ann-Mary for interessante og nyttige innlegg om denne huslyden! Då er eg etter kvart godt «dekt» når det gjeld Borell-huslyden, og har fått vita at Lars Eric Olofsson Borell var gruvearbeidar, og at Eva Charlotta Rolin var frå Kihl i Örebro län, men so skriv du, Vibeke, at: «Eva Charlotta Rolins far var dagkarl.» For meg ser det ut som du kanskje har gløymt å ta med namnet hans? Ein ny kjempetakk for framifrå bistand med denne biografien som no nesten er komplett! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kari Aabelvik Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Hei. Far til Eva Charlotta Rolin het Jan Jansson Rolin, f. 15/4 1796. Hilsen Kari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars E. Øyane Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 Hjarteleg takk til Kari for siste innlegget! Med dette har eg fått svar på alle spørsmåli mine, og problemet er løyst! Eg er kjempenøgd og takkar på ny for framifrå bistand med komplettering av denne biografien! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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