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Astrid B. Hindhammer

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5 minutter siden, Astrid B. Hindhammer skrev:

Linken over står det at denne Andrew Lester, gift med den mexikanske damen, er født i Christiania.

 

Ikke dokumentert med kilder.

 

3 minutter siden, Astrid B. Hindhammer skrev:

Ja, jeg synes å tyde i kirkeboken at det står 15. mars og ikke 13.mars. 

Det var dumt!

 

Nå er 2 dagers avvik "ingenting" så det kan fremdeles være rett mann, så vi får sjekke mer.....😉

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1 time siden, Egil Johannessen skrev:

 

Ikke dokumentert med kilder.

 

 

Nå er 2 dagers avvik "ingenting" så det kan fremdeles være rett mann, så vi får sjekke mer.....😉

 

Ang.han du har funnet;

 

Ser at immigrasjonsår oppgitt var 1884 i Census 1910 og Census 1920,og 1894 i Census 1930. 

 

Andrew Lester

United States Census, 1910

Name: Andrew Lester
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1910
Event Place: Philadelphia Ward 46, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1870
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1884
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 8

 

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Andrew Lester
Head
Male
40
Norway
Wife
Female
36
Mexico

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MGZP-LBL

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRJF-2HX?cc=1727033&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMGZP-LBL

 

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Andrew Lester

United States Census, 1920

Name: Andrew Lester
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1920
Event Place: Aldan, Delaware, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 54
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Own or Rent: Rent
Birth Year (Estimated): 1866
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1884
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 2
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Andrew Lester
Head
Male
54
Norway
Wife
Female
45
Mexico
Son
Male
16
Pennsylvania

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M61K-F7J

 

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Andrew Lester

United States Census, 1930

Name: Andrew Lester
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Precinct 5, Martin, Florida, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 60
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1870
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1893
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 1

 

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Andrew Lester
Head
Male
60
Norway
Wife
Female
50
Mexico
Son
Male
26
Pennsylvania

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SYN6-Z3Z

 

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RH9-F8R?cc=1810731&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3ASYN6-Z3Z

 

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Andrew Lester Sr.

Florida Deaths, 1877-1939

Name: Andrew Lester Sr.
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 13 Jan 1934
Event Place: West Palm Beach, Palm Beach, Florida, United States
Event Place (Original): West Palm Beach, Palm Beach, Florida
Residence Place: H... Sound, Fla.
Gender: Male
Age: 63
Marital Status: Widowed
Ethnicity: American
Race: White
Occupation: Retired
Birth Date: 13 Mar 1870
Birthplace: Norway
Burial Date: 13 Jan 1934
Burial Place: Stuart, Fla.
Spouse's Name: Iray Motto Lester

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FP9T-XH1

 

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14 minutter siden, Egil Johannessen skrev:

 

Ikke dokumentert med kilder.

 

 

Nå er 2 dagers avvik "ingenting" så det kan fremdeles være rett mann, så vi får sjekke mer.....😉

 

Vel, men om det 

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5 minutter siden, Ann-Mary Engum skrev:

Ser at immigrasjonsåret var 1893 på han du har funnet. 

 

Ja, de forskjellige immigr. årene står beskrevet i post nr. 16

 

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Tallet 3 og 5 er vel ganske like i gotisk håndskrift (og liten håndskrift sjenerelt, vil jeg tro.)

Ellers finner jeg bare én annen kanditat ved navn Arne Lyster i kirkebøkene. Og han kommer fra Sogn og Fjordane. 

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Beklager Egil J., jeg skulle svare deg på noe, og så trykket jeg før setninga var ferdig. 

Jeg skulle skrive ett eller annet om at på familysearch sto han oppført å være født i Christiania, Norway. Men jeg finner ikke kilden til dette.

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Jeg ser fra FT 1920 at denne Andrew skal ha blitt naturalisert i 1890. Fra FT 1930 er det opplyst at han var 25 år da han giftet seg, dvs. ca 1895.

 

The New Jersey, Marriage Records, 1670-1965
Name:    Andrew Lester
Gender:    Male
Marriage Date:    24 Sep 1895
Marriage Place:    Camden, Camden, New Jersey, USA
Spouse:    Traymotto Ottowell
Film Number:    000495721

 

The Philadelphia Inquirer (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) 01 Oct 1895, Tuesday, Page 9

The Philadelphia Inquirer (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) 01 Oct 1895, Tuesday, Page 9.jpg

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Men hvis denne Andrew Lester skal ha blitt naturalisert i 1890, er ikke det en veldig rask tidsprogresjon i forhold til at Arne K. Lyster står i norsk folketelling i januar 1890?

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31 minutter siden, Astrid B. Hindhammer skrev:

Tallet 3 og 5 er vel ganske like i gotisk håndskrift (og liten håndskrift sjenerelt, vil jeg tro.)

Ellers finner jeg bare én annen kanditat ved navn Arne Lyster i kirkebøkene. Og han kommer fra Sogn og Fjordane. 

 

Hvis du mener dåpen til Arne så er ikke det gotisk håndskrift. 

 

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5 minutter siden, Astrid B. Hindhammer skrev:

Men hvis denne Andrew Lester skal ha blitt naturalisert i 1890, er ikke det en veldig rask tidsprogresjon i forhold til at han står i norsk folketelling i januar 1890?

 

Dersom det stemmer at han ble naturalisert i 1890 så var han neppe ført i FT 1891 (avholdt 1. januar 1891). Ser fra FT i 1891 at antatt oppholdssted var Kristiansund.

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Ann-May Engum> Nei, dåpsinfoen er ikke i gotisk skrift. Men gotisk skrift inkludert liten håndskrift generelt, kan mistolkes noen ganger, og da snakker jeg om alt en finner om Knut Lyster i arkivene.

Men uansett. 🙂 

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1 time siden, Ann-Mary Engum skrev:

 

Ang.han du har funnet;

 

Ser at immigrasjonsår oppgitt var 1884 i Census 1910,og 1894 i Census 1930. 

 

Andrew Lester

United States Census, 1910

Name: Andrew Lester
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1910
Event Place: Philadelphia Ward 46, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1870
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1884
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 8

 

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Andrew Lester
Head
Male
40
Norway
Wife
Female
36
Mexico

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MGZP-LBL

 

View the original document.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRJF-2HX?cc=1727033&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMGZP-LBL

 

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Andrew Lester

United States Census, 1930

Name: Andrew Lester
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Precinct 5, Martin, Florida, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 60
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1870
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1893
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 1

 

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Andrew Lester
Head
Male
60
Norway
Wife
Female
50
Mexico
Son
Male
26
Pennsylvania

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SYN6-Z3Z

 

View the original document.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RH9-F8R?cc=1810731&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3ASYN6-Z3Z

 

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Andrew Lester Sr.

Florida Deaths, 1877-1939

Name: Andrew Lester Sr.
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 13 Jan 1934
Event Place: West Palm Beach, Palm Beach, Florida, United States
Event Place (Original): West Palm Beach, Palm Beach, Florida
Residence Place: H... Sound, Fla.
Gender: Male
Age: 63
Marital Status: Widowed
Ethnicity: American
Race: White
Occupation: Retired
Birth Date: 13 Mar 1870
Birthplace: Norway
Burial Date: 13 Jan 1934
Burial Place: Stuart, Fla.
Spouse's Name: Iray Motto Lester

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FP9T-XH1

 

View the original document.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SN3-KCN?cc=1595003&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AFP9T-XH1

 

Ja, da er jo muligheten der for at Census i 1910 er feil. Jeg har opplevd å finne andre i amerika. Census som dro til USA flere ganger i forveien, men som tilslutt bosatte seg der for godt, og da er emigrasjons-året svært varierende pr. Census. 

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9 minutter siden, Astrid B. Hindhammer skrev:

 

Ja, da er jo muligheten der for at Census i 1910 er feil. Jeg har opplevd å finne andre Census, f.eks en John Haltbakk, som dro til USA på reiser og tilslutt bosatte seg der, men at immigrasjonsåret derfor varierer stor pr. opplysning. 

 

Census 1910 og Census 1920 viser immigrasjonsår 1884.

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