Kalseth Gunworks of Trondheim

[K KALSETH]

I am looking for more information on Kalseth Gunworks which was located in Trondheim in the 1890s. My family is trying to trace history back to when Sverre Kalseth came to Chicago from Trondheim. He had listed "Paasche Airbrush Company" as his employer on his WWII draft registration card, and when I Googled this company, found that Mr. Paasche had formerly worked at Kalseth Gunworks in Trondheim. I am curious if there is a family relation. Additionally, our family tree tracing stopped at Sverre Kalseth, as I was unable to find out who his parents were. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

[Sven Hjortland]

Sverre´s baptism, No. 157:

 

Sør-Trøndelag fylke, Bakklandet (Bakke) i Trondheim, Ministerialbok nr. 604A18 (1893-1900), Fødte og døpte 1897, Side 150
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[Grethe Flood]

???

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JPG5-LZD

Name: Sverre Kalseth
Given Name: Sverre
Surname: Kalseth
Event Type: Death
Event Date: Jul 1966
Event Place: Cook, Illinois
Event Place (Original): Cook, Illinois
Age: 69
Birth Date: 03 Jun 1897

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2H5G-P7Z
Name: Sverre Kalseth
Event Type: Naturalization
Event Date: 1949
Event Year: 1949
Event Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
Age: 52
Birth Year (Estimated): 1897
 

Endret Desember 7, 2020 av Grethe Flood

[Sven Hjortland]

The marriage of Sverres parents

No. 50

 

Sør-Trøndelag fylke, Bakklandet (Bakke) i Trondheim, Ministerialbok nr. 604A19 (1893-1900), Viede 1895, Side 27
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[Sven Hjortland]

Sverre Kalseths marriage, No. 9

 

Sør-Trøndelag fylke, Ila i Trondheim, Klokkerbok nr. 603C04 (1923-1941), Viede 1923, Side 4
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[Anne-Lise Hansen]

The family in the 1900 Census:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01037426018344

 

1910 Census:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01036806027860

 

His birth year is one year off. (Not unusual in this census.)

Endret Desember 7, 2020 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[K KALSETH]

18 minutes ago, AllanFrantzen said:

https://www.nb.no/items/e1d1b982865f2ad6f717003a156ae1fc?page=0&searchText="lars larsen kalseth"

 Is there a way to translate this in to English? 🙂

[Bjarne Rosenstrøm]

1 time siden, K KALSETH skrev:

 Is there a way to translate this in to English? 🙂

 

With all reservations as to my spelling and grammer:

 

 

"Town news.
Rifle maker Kalseth.
An officer writes to us from Værnes drill ground: Corps rifle maker attached to Nordmøre corps Lars Larsen Kalseth has passed away at Værnes hospital on June 18th from meningitis. He was born November 17th 1867 and served from April 2nd 1894 with Trondhjem cavalry corps as a rifle maker and was as such hired at Nordmøre corps on May 2nd 1897. Many will remember this gracious, skilled and rarely benevelent man who was known as an excellent hunter and price winner at the shooting range. He will be missed by many, not the least by Nordmøre corps, were he had a large flock of comrades and friends. He always recieved a well earned praise for the excellent order in which he kept the regiments weapons, and he always had the benefit of recieving his superiors trust and appreciation. He leaves behind a widow and 5 unsuported children."

[K KALSETH]

Thank you so much. I have seen some information to suggest Sverre's father was a "Lars Andreas Kalseth" and a "Laura Mammi Kalseth," when searching the USA geni sites, but it sounds like great-great-great grandfather Kalseth was Lars Larsen and there is the connection to the Kalseth Gunworks. Fascinating! Sadly, from what else I have found, my husband's father and one of his two brothers were the only Kalseths that came over from Norway to have had children, my husband's father the only one to have boys to carry on the Kalseth name. 

[K KALSETH]

My next question .... can anyone guide me to more information on where the last name "Kalseth" originated from? Now I have traced back to Laura Amalie and Lars Larsen Kalseth circa 1860s/1870s as great-great-great grandparents to my sons ... but beyond that, I am stuck. I am finding a possible connection with an "Olga Kalseth," and think I have translated the abbreviation to mean she was a related family member living with Laura and was a widower .. so making the assumption she was a sister-in-law of Lars. I'm not sure if my hang-up is a language barrier, if somewhere along the line a name change occurred. I did come across a Lars Olssen Kalseth who looks nearly identical to my husband but am having trouble making the connection, because on this profile, the last name appears to have come from the mother's side, not fathers: Geni - Lars Olsson Kalseth (1836-1878) -- maybe I am not understanding the cultural differences at that time?

[Even Stormoen]

Kallset is a farm in Surnadal, Nord-Møre.

 

Here

 

Regards

 

EDIT: And the parish is Stangvik.

Endret Desember 8, 2020 av Even Stormoen

[Tove D. Johansen]

Baptism no. 1 in 1868: Lars Larsen born November 17 1867

Parents: Gdmd (= Farmer) Lars Olsen Kalseth and Kone (= wife) Ane Andersdatter

 

SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Møre og Romsdal, 592/L1027: Ministerialbok nr. 592A05, 1865-1878, s. 17
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Confirmation of Lars Larsen in Nesset parish (no. 18)

 

SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Møre og Romsdal, 551/L0630: Klokkerbok nr. 551C02, 1867-1885, s. 172
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Endret Desember 8, 2020 av Tove D. Johansen

[Tove D. Johansen]

Baptism of Laura Amalie in Trondheim

Parents Lars Larsen (occupation: carpenter) and Alette Marie Valdersløv

 

SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 604/L0186: Ministerialbok nr. 604A07, 1866-1877, s. 158
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Endret Desember 9, 2020 av Tove D. Johansen

[Tove D. Johansen]

Marriage of Lars Olsen Kalseth and Anne Andersdatter Hylbak in Stangvik 26th November 1863 (no. 16)

 

SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Møre og Romsdal, 592/L1026: Ministerialbok nr. 592A04, 1849-1867, s. 328
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https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000002081910

 

It must be the same Lars Olsen (Olsson) Kalseth that you have found on Geni, only all his children are not listed there.

Endret Desember 9, 2020 av Tove D. Johansen

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

17 timer siden, K KALSETH skrev:

maybe I am not understanding the cultural differences at that time?

 

16 timer siden, Even Stormoen skrev:

Kallset is a farm in Surnadal, Nord-Møre.

 

Here

 

Like Even S. sais, Kalseth is a farm name and shall not originally be regarded as a person’s surname, but the person’s address. The address could change when moving to another farm. 

 

Likewise one must remenber that women did not take their husband’s surname almost until 1900. When immigrating to the US, they had to follow the American custom (and modern way) with a fixed surname. 

 

https://norwegianridge.com/2011/07/10/understanding-norwegian-naming-patterns/

[K KALSETH]

2 hours ago, Anne-Lise Hansen said:

 

 

Like Even S. sais, Kalseth is a farm name and shall not originally be regarded as a person’s surname, but the person’s address. The address could change when moving to another farm. 

 

Likewise one must remenber that women did not take their husband’s surname almost until 1900. When immigrating to the US, they had to follow the American custom (and modern way) with a fixed surname. 

 

https://norwegianridge.com/2011/07/10/understanding-norwegian-naming-patterns/

 

Thank you. This link is helpful! It sounds like there are quite a few factors at play that can make tracing the lineage difficult:

 

- artificial intelligence software used to analyze the documents, and potential for errors; for example: one document read "Matte Marie" Kalseth and when I view the document, I see "Alette Marie." When I search both names, I get more hits on "Alette Marie," so I am assuming the software didn't get this one right but also considering the possibility that they are two separate people.

- name changes due to relocations; it seems safe to assume that the Kalseth name was originally created to refer to the family owning the farm land in Kallset but it's quite possible that people who once had that name may not have any blood relation due to the fact that they could have moved and a new blood line took that name when the land was sold/reoccupied by another bloodline ... or vice-versa, those with the Kalseth name could have previously had a different last name, referencing where they lived prior to Kallset.

- the fact that women did not take on the husband's surname until closer to the 1900s ... if I'm understanding correctly, a name, for example, such as "Andersdatter" simply refers to the fact that the female was the daughter of "Anders," and thus there could be many unrelated females with a similar name which could make confirming blood relation very difficult via viewing paperwork.

- it also sounds like, per the census records, it was not uncommon for people to be listed in the household who were just visitors .. or as another possible example, a sister-in-law who was related by marriage, not blood, and resided in the home due to widow status ... and to someone, such as myself, who does not speak the language, may not properly interpret the codes 

 

Some other things I am hoping to shed light on:

 

I am still hoping to find out more about Kalseth Gunworks - it sounds like Lars was the man but was this a business? The Paasche Airbrush article I originally found gave the impression this was a storefront, an actual business. The article translated for me via this thread, gave the impression he was a one-man show who did gunsmithing for the townspeople or possible just as his military job.  I attempted to look at the historical property records on the Trondheim City website but came up empty when searched by keyword "Kalseth."

 

Erling Kalseth seems to be the namesake of an uncle in our family. I see tons of immigration records indicating what seems to be that he must have come back and forth between the US and Norway as numerous dates, ship names, and points of entry are on the immigration records. I'm curious to the reason for this. I couldn't locate a wife or children so the possibility that he had a family remaining in Norway seems slim. I am assuming a military connection as did find his name on the Norwegian military registry. This would make sense as the family has strong military background after moving to the USA. 

 

I am also curious to learn more about why the family chose Chicago as the destination in the USA. Was this chosen by the US government for them? Even in the 1900s, Chicago was a populous metropolis compared to other cities in America. Knowing the family likely were strong farmers, had a military background, etc. Chicago wouldn't necessarily be a place I would equate with being conducive to this. The family has always resided in Chicago proper, not suburban Chicago where farmland may have been available. I am assuming maybe this is the Paasche Airbrush Co. connection, as Sverre Kalseth had listed "Paasche Airbrush Co." as his employer on his WWII draft registry. Maybe Mr. Paasche came over to pursue this business venture and Chicago was the chosen place and the Kalseth family followed over for different and better opportunity compared to a farm lifestyle.

 

Thank you for all the responses!

 

 

[K KALSETH]

6 hours ago, AllanFrantzen said:

  

https://www.nb.no/items/62dd30198a3bf58a46898a9b1671b59f?page=0&searchText="lars kalseth"

 

Is there an easy way to translate this? I'm unable to copy/paste the text into Google. 

[Carl Nilsen]

Rifle maker LK died yesterday in Trondhjems hospital from heart paralysis. Kalseth had only been ill for a few days. During his last leave from Værnes, his legs suddenly became paralyzed and this paralysis progressed until it reached his heart. The illness that ended his significant life is the malignant inflammation of the brain and spinal cord that some time ago went as an epidemic in several villages of Trøndelag, and which earlier has occurred Søndenfjelds (south of the mountains). He was fully conscious until the end , reports "Dagsp."Kalset was employed as rifle maker with Nordmøre corps. He is survived by his wife and 5 children.

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

1 time siden, K KALSETH skrev:

attempted to look at the historical property records on the Trondheim City website but came up empty when searched by keyword "Kalseth."

 

The property is not situated in Trøndelag (Trondheim city), but in Møre og Romsdal. 

 

In the map presented by Even Stormoen, you can see the farm has the number 99/1 in 1566 Surnadal. In 1950 the farm has another number: 63/14 (under the farm Halset)

 

Møre og Romsdal

 

Stangvik herad 

63	Halset
14	Kalset	0 mark 10 øre	Lars B. Kalseth

 

https://www.dokpro.uio.no/cgi-bin/stad/matr50

 

In 1886 there are three farms under Halset, and Kalset must have been divided from one of these:

http://www.rhd.uit.no/matrikkel/mtliste.aspx?knr=1564&gnr=63

 

I am not sure exactly where to find old property information in these books, (Stangvik?, Surnadal?), but this is the place to look:

 

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/tl/preg/search?page=2&counties[0]=15&include_no_gnr=1&gnr=&bnr=&matrnr=&lnr=&other_no=&name=

 

Endret Desember 9, 2020 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

På 7.12.2020 den 22.47, K KALSETH skrev:

He had listed "Paasche Airbrush Company" as his employer on his WWII draft registration card, and when I Googled this company, found that Mr. Paasche had formerly worked at Kalseth Gunworks in Trondheim. I am curious if there is a family relation.

 

Jens Andreas Paasche was educated riflemaker in Trondheim. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paasche_Airbrush_Company

 

About Jens Andreas Paasche:

https://www.strindahistorielag.no/wiki/index.php/Jens_A._Paasche

 

His family in Trondheim 1885:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01053300012744

 

 

 

[Jostein Stokke]

I know you cannot read this - but here is the farm pages 586 / 587.

 

I am sure somebody with more skills than I have, can show these pages.

 

https://www.nb.no/items/8edd826ae9791b06789ee26bfd89552a?page=587&searchText=kalset

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

Bare de med norsk ip-adresse kommer inn på Nasjonalbiblioteket, Jostein. Vi må evt. ta bilde av sidene og legge ut her.

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

[K KALSETH]

39 minutes ago, Anne-Lise Hansen said:

 

The property is not situated in Trøndelag (Trondheim city), but in Møre og Romsdal. 

 

In the map presented by Even Stormoen, you can see the farm has the number 99/1 in 1566 Surnadal. In 1950 the farm has another number: 63/14 (under the farm Halset)

 

Møre og Romsdal

 

Stangvik herad 

63	Halset
14	Kalset	0 mark 10 øre	Lars B. Kalseth

 

https://www.dokpro.uio.no/cgi-bin/stad/matr50

 

In 1886 there are three farms under Halset, and Kalset must have been divided from one of these:

http://www.rhd.uit.no/matrikkel/mtliste.aspx?knr=1564&gnr=63

 

I am not sure exactly where to find old property information in these books, (Stangvik?, Surnadal?), but this is the place to look:

 

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/tl/preg/search?page=2&counties[0]=15&include_no_gnr=1&gnr=&bnr=&matrnr=&lnr=&other_no=&name=

 

 Thank you. I should have clarified that we were told the family came from Trondheim so that's why I originally looked there. It sounds like possibly they originated in Kallset and moved to Trondheim closer to when they decided to leave for America so I will have to see what I can find by viewing property records of Stangvik and Surnadal.