To søstre fra Sverige til USA. Hvor ble de av?

[Vigdis Olsen]

 

Betty, da med navnet Elisabeth Johnson giftet seg med John Hedberg 19 January 1904 i Grand Haven, Michigan.

[Egil Johannessen]

24 minutter siden, Vigdis Olsen skrev:

Betty, da med navnet Elisabeth Johnson giftet seg med John Hedberg 19 January 1904 i Grand Haven, Michigan.

 

Hun som døde i 1949?

 

The Michigan, U.S., Death Records, 1867-1952

Name:	Elizabeth Hedberg [Elizabeth Johnson]
Gender:	Female
Race:	White
Marital status:	Widowed
Death Age:	80
Birth Date:	17 Jan 1869
Birth Place:	Sweden
Death Date:	13 Nov 1949
Death Place:	Allendale, Ottawa, Michigan, USA
Father:	Johnson
File Number:	007412

 

 

Lenke FS - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KF7S-XHF

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[Vigdis Olsen]

Jeg vet ikke når hun døde, men det virker absolutt være henne!

[Egil Johannessen]

Jeg ser at FS har denne dødsnotisen fra Grand Rapids Herald, datert 16. november 1949 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK77-8321

 

Den sier ikke mye, men det skal finnes en OBIT publisert 14. november (mulig med samme innhold?) i den samme avisa - LENKE

 

Hvis dere ikke har den, så er det mulig å bestille den her  - http://data.wmgs.org/Newspapers/FMPro?-db=Orders&-lay=NewspapersOrders&-format=search.htm&-New

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[Egil Johannessen]

13 minutter siden, Egil Johannessen skrev:

Den sier ikke mye, men det skal finnes en OBIT publisert 14. november (mulig med samme innhold?) i den samme avisa - LENKE

 

Her er det en fra Ancestry som tydeligvis har hentet ut denne OBIT'en som også da bekrefter at Elizabeth hadde en søster, Mrs. E. Stromquist of Chicago !!

 

Transcript

HEDBERG--Mrs. Elizabeth Hedbert, aged 81, widow of John F. Hedbert, formerly of Grand Rapids, passed away early Sunday morning at the home of her daughter, Mrs. John Jesser of Allendale; also surviving are one son, Arthur Hedberg of Grand Rapids; one sister, Mrs. E. Stromquist of Chicago; 5 grandchildren and several nieces and nephews. Funeral services will be held Tues at 2 at the Allendale Reformed Church. Rev. Raymond Schaap officiating. Interment Ottawa Center Cemetery. Mrs. Hedberg will repose at the home of Mr. and Mrs. John Jesser until Tus noon. Arrangements by Jonkoff Funeral Home.

Detail

Grand Rapids (MI) Herald, Nov. 14, 1949, page 15

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[Anton Hagelee]

1920 FT 

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZQM-25X

 

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/9F78-XNW

 

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[Vigdis Olsen]

Flott.

Da vet vi at de var søstre!

Jeg trodde at Betty ikke hadde etterkommere - her nevnes både sønn og datter - så jeg må ha misforstått.

 

Om Elizabeth/Betty sin opprinnelse kan finnes uten tvil så har vi også Lina sin opprinnelse.

Jeg kan forøvrig ikke forstå annet enn at hun er Anna Elisabeth fra Broddarp. Merkelig at hun ikke brukte Anna?

[Egil Johannessen]

2 minutter siden, Vigdis Olsen skrev:

Jeg trodde at Betty ikke hadde etterkommere - her nevnes både sønn og datter - så jeg må ha misforstått.

 

Barna er John Fredrik Hedbergs fra 1. ekteskap med Blenda Lundgren eller Blomgren - hun døde i 1903 - Lenke FAG - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/90779693/blanda-hedberg

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[Anton Hagelee]

Kanskje John var gift to ganger?

 

Arthur Karl Hedberg

 in the Cook County, Illinois, U.S., Birth Certificates Index, 1871-1922

Name:Arthur Karl Hedberg

Birth Date:25 May 1896

Birth Place:Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Ethnicity:American

Gender:Male

Race:White

Father:John Frederik Hedberg

Mother:Blanche Blomgren Hedberg

FHL Film Number:1287992

 

 

 

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[Egil Johannessen]

1 minutt siden, Egil Johannessen skrev:

Blenda Lundgren eller Blomgren

 

The Michigan, U.S., Death Records, 1897-1929

Name:	Blenda Hedberg [Blenda Blomgren]
Gender:	Female
Age:	35
Race:	White
Birth Year:	1867
Death Date:	31 Mar 1903
Death Place:	Polkton, Ottawa, Michigan, USA
Father:	Klaas Blomgren
Mother:	Beata Blomgren

[Egil Johannessen]

2 minutter siden, Anton Hagelee skrev:

Kanskje John var gift to ganger?

 

JA ! 😉

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[Anton Hagelee]

Blenda Lundgren

in the Cook County, Illinois, U.S., Marriages Index, 1871-1920

Name:Blenda Lundgren

Age:26

Gender:Female

Birth Year:abt 1867

Marriage Type:Marriage

Marriage Date:12 Aug 1893

Marriage Place:Cook, Illinois

Spouse Name:John F. Hedberg

Spouse Age:26

Spouse Gender:Male

FHL Film Number:1030230

 

 

 

[Egil Johannessen]

1 minutt siden, Anton Hagelee skrev:

Blenda Lundgren

 

Sikkert en transkr. feil - hun het nok Blomgren......

[Egil Johannessen]

Marriage License Transcript:

 

Transcript

Ottawa County, Michigan #17 1904. Marriage License. To any personlegally authorized to solemnize marriage, greeting: Mr. John F. Hedberg and M Elizabeth Johnson. Affidavit having been filed in this office, as provided by Public Act No 128, Laws of 1887, as amended by Public Act No 243 , Laws of 1895, by which it appears, that said John F. Hedbert is 37 years of age, color is white, residence is Coopersville and birthplace was Sweden, occupation farmer, father's name Erick Hedbert and mother's maiden name was Christina Lueberg, has been previously married one time and that said Elizabeth Johnson is 34 years of age color is white, residence is Chicago and birthplace was Sweden, occupation is at home, father's name unknown and mother's maiden name was unknown and who has be previously married no times, and whose maiden names was -- and whose -- consent, in case she has not attained the age of 18 years, has been filed in my office. In witness whereof, I have hereunto attached my hand and the seal of Ottawa County, MI this 19 day of Jan AD 1904. Certificate of Marriage between Mr John F. Hedberg and M Elizabeth Johnson. I hereby certify that, in accordances with the above license, the persons herein mentioned were joined in marriage by me, at Grand Haven, County of Ottawa , MI on the 19th day of January AD 1904, in the presence of Mrs. Jno. DeCatur of Grand Haven and Mrs. Joe Van der Menlen of Grand Haven as wit nesses. Jacob Van der Menlen, Minister of the Gospel

[Egil Johannessen]

Citation Information

Transcript

Carl said that she HAD to be Swedish. "Elizabeth (Betty) was a goodfrie nd of Blanda, she came to MI and then theywere married (they may have l ived "in sin" for awhile!!) Elizabeth raised the 2 kids (Albert died sh ortly there after). Mom (Gertie) always said she was luckey to have Eli zabeth as a second mom and loved her dearly (she was GREAT) she was the o nly grandmother I ever really knew--she lived with us many years. We vi sited Edith and Hilmer many times--I still have various plaster figurin gs, etc he made and mom painted...

[Anton Hagelee]

Johan Fredrik Hedberg

 in the Sweden, Emigrants Registered in Church Books, 1783-1991

Name:Johan Fredrik Hedberg

Gender:Man (Male)

Birth Date:11 mar 1867

Birth Place:Hed, Västmanland

Departure Date:16 okt 1891 (16 Oct 1891)

Departure Place:Hed, Västmanland

Arrival Place:Nordamerika

Occupation or Relation:Sågarbetare

Marital status:Unmarried (Single)

Notes:Travels alone

Household Members:

Name

Johan Fredrik Hedberg

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Elizabeth Hedberg

in the 1940 United States Federal Census

Name:Elizabeth Hedberg

Age:71

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1869

Gender:Female

Race:White

Birthplace:Norway

Marital Status:Widowed

Relation to Head of House:Resident

Home in 1940:Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Map of Home in 1940:Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Street:Nina Avenue

House Number:6086

Inferred Residence in 1935:Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Residence in 1935:Chicago

Citizenship:Naturalized

Sheet Number:1B

Institution:Norwegian Olf People Home Society

Attended School or College:No

Highest Grade Completed:High School, 4th year

Hours Worked Week Prior to Census:4

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4MC-8PX

 

 

 

 

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[Egil Johannessen]

Hedberg - Ottawa Center Cemetery Memorials - Find A Grave

[Anton Hagelee]

Sannsynligvis Johan Fredrik dåp.

 

Johan Fredrik Larsson

 in the Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1859-1947

Name:Johan Fredrik
[Johan Fredrik Larsson] 
[Johan Fredrik Eriksson] 
[Johan Fredrik Ersson] 

Gender:Man (Male)

Birth Date:11 mar 1867

Birth Place:Hed, Västmanland, Sverige (Sweden)

Father:Erik Larsson

Mother:Kristina Lundberg

Volume:266

 

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[Vigdis Olsen]

28 minutter siden, Egil Johannessen skrev:

Marriage License Transcript:

 

Transcript

Ottawa County, Michigan #17 1904. Marriage License. To any personlegally authorized to solemnize marriage, greeting: Mr. John F. Hedberg and M Elizabeth Johnson. Affidavit having been filed in this office, as provided by Public Act No 128, Laws of 1887, as amended by Public Act No 243 , Laws of 1895, by which it appears, that said John F. Hedbert is 37 years of age, color is white, residence is Coopersville and birthplace was Sweden, occupation farmer, father's name Erick Hedbert and mother's maiden name was Christina Lueberg, has been previously married one time and that said Elizabeth Johnson is 34 years of age color is white, residence is Chicago and birthplace was Sweden, occupation is at home, father's name unknown and mother's maiden name was unknown and who has be previously married no times, and whose maiden names was -- and whose -- consent, in case she has not attained the age of 18 years, has been filed in my office. In witness whereof, I have hereunto attached my hand and the seal of Ottawa County, MI this 19 day of Jan AD 1904. Certificate of Marriage between Mr John F. Hedberg and M Elizabeth Johnson. I hereby certify that, in accordances with the above license, the persons herein mentioned were joined in marriage by me, at Grand Haven, County of Ottawa , MI on the 19th day of January AD 1904, in the presence of Mrs. Jno. DeCatur of Grand Haven and Mrs. Joe Van der Menlen of Grand Haven as wit nesses. Jacob Van der Menlen, Minister of the Gospel

 

Og så mangler KUN de opplysningene som vi så gjerne vil ha tak i: hennes foreldre!

Typisk!

[Egil Johannessen]

7 minutter siden, Vigdis Olsen skrev:

Og så mangler KUN de opplysningene som vi så gjerne vil ha tak i: hennes foreldre!

 

Du trenger da ikke det....

[Egil Johannessen]

På 26.4.2021 den 1.18, Vigdis Olsen skrev:

Søstrene Carolina Josefina født 4. desember 1865 og Anna Elisabeth Gustafsdotter født 17. januar 1869; begge i Broddarp emigrerer til Amerika.

Foreldrene var Gustaf Johanson og Gustava Johansdotter.

 

 

For å oppsummere;

 

Carolina Josefina = Carolina/Lena Stromquist (gift med Edward Stromquist). Ida Carolina Johnson kan utelukkes som kone til Edward Stromquist da hennes foreldre ikke stemmer med de som er oppgitt i dødsattesten (1952) til Lena Stromquist. I tillegg; Ida Carolina Johnson er funnet i Bethlehem Lutheran Church,  Brooklyn, NY medl. liste fra 1892 til 31.12.1903.

 

Anna Elizabeth = Elizabeth Hedberg (gift med Johan "John" Fredrik Hedberg). At disse to er søstre kommer klart frem gjennom OBIT i 1949 etter Elizabeth Hedberg.

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[Vigdis Olsen]

Det er jeg ganske overbevist om, jeg også.

Etterkommeren til Lina ser seg litt blind på at Carolina Josefinas fødselsår ikke stemmer.

 

Kanskje hjelper det at dere fant at hennes bestemmelsessted var Chicago!?

[Per.H.Skaug]

1 hour ago, Vigdis Olsen said:

Det er jeg ganske overbevist om, jeg også.

Etterkommeren til Lina ser seg litt blind på at Carolina Josefinas fødselsår ikke stemmer.

 

Kanskje hjelper det at dere fant at hennes bestemmelsessted var Chicago!?

Ida Caroline forsvant jo i Brooklyn ca 1903. Kanskje hun kan finnes død eller flyttet rundt eller like før 1903, eventuelt funnet i andre records fra New York samtidig med at Lina fikk barn i Chicago?

[Vigdis Olsen]

 

Jeg finner mange Ida Carolina'er født omtrent til riktig tid, men jeg klarer ikke med sikkerhet å finne den riktige.

Hvis hun gifter seg et annet sted, dør eller kanskje reiser hjem igjen, er det klart for alle at hun er "feil" kandidat til Lina.