Jacob Edwards part II

[David Arvidson]

About three years ago, I posted to this site so that I could get help finding relatives.  I received a great deal of help and was able to make much progress tracking down the family of my 2nd great grandmother.  At that time, I was not able to provide much information about my second great grandfather.   I have some new information, and would like your help.

 

My 2nd great grandfather used the name Jacob Edwards.  We knew that he lived in Iowa when he died.  I was able to find him in the 1880 census living in Earlville, Illinois, and it appears he was born in about 1855.  The census shows he was married to Amalie Benson.  I was able to get a copy of his marriage certificate and it showed that Jacob's father was Bjorn Parnevik and his mother was Anna O?.  Jacob and Amalie appear in Hampton, Iowa in the 1895 and following censuses until they die in 1927 and 1924.  I was not able to find any more information about Jacob's parents.  My guess is that Edwards was not either Jacob's or Bjorn's original surname.

 

Within the last few weeks, I was able to find some new information.  None of the information is definitive, but I now believe that Bjorn's surname was Gunderson and Anna's was Oleson or Olsdatter.  I believe that Bjorn and Anna arrived in Earlville, IL around 1862 and that Bjorn died in 1864.  

 

I do not know when Bjorn was born.  My guess is that he was about the same age as Anna, and I think she was born about 1834.   I do not know where Bjorn and Anna had lived in Norway.  I do think that many of the Norwegians living in La Salle County were originally from Telemark.

 

Do you have any thoughts about where I should look to find information about where Bjorn, Anna and Jacob had lived in Norway?

 

Please let me know whether you would like me to provide any links or other documentation.

 

Thank you for your time.

[Anne Tonby]

Jacob Bjørnsen Pannevig born 16th of August 1853, Strand parish Rogaland. Parents Bjørn Gundersen Pannevig and Anna Jacobsdtr

Strand sokneprestkontor, SAST/A-101828/H/Ha/Haa/L0005: Ministerialbok nr. A 5, 1833-1854, s. 160-161
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070619640534

 

Endret November 28, 2023 av Anne Tonby

[Anton Hagelee]

David, there is a Family Tree on Ancestry.com for. Jacob Bjørnsen Pannevig  that might interest you if you are a subscriber to Ancestry. 

 

Jakob Bjørnsen Pannevik

1853–1927

BIRTH 16 AUG 1853 • Pannevig u/ Nedre Eiane, Høle, Strand, Rogaland, Norway

DEATH 1927

 

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/2860766/person/162529466775/facts

 

The Tree does have as a source the same baptism record provided by Anne Tonby

 

The tree carries his family back in time one generations through 

 

Gunnar Ivarsen Lyse

1797–1850

BIRTH 1797 • Lyse, Høle, Strand, Rogaland, Norway

DEATH 28 APR 1850

 

but does not have any sources for Gunnar. So it would be advisable to obtain some original  records on Gunnar. before adding him to your Tree. 

 

At times I have used Trees found on Ancestry to guide my search for ancestors and used the information found there to guide my search for the original records in the DA online records. There are several other Ancestry Trees that take the Family Tree back in time for several generations. 

 

Let me know if your are interested in the information found on Ancestry.com. 

 

 

Endret November 28, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[David Arvidson]

Thank you, Anne and Anton.  I never would have found any of this information without your help.

 

The information you found leads to a few new questions.

 

The Norwegian marriage record seems to show Anna was born about 1828 while the American records show she was born about 1834.  Not sure that anyone can address that, but it seems a little odd.

 

To me, it looks like Bjørn and Anna continued to live in the same area in Norway, but that maybe parish boundaries were changed so they went from living in Høle parish to living in Forsand parish.  Does that seem likely to you?

 

As of now, I know that Jacob, Anna, and Bjørn arrived in Illinois, but I do not know what happened to Inger, Gunder and Gunhild (the other children of Bjørn and Anna).   The Ancestry trees only have information for the family while they lived in Norway.

 

The 1900 census from Iowa shows that Anna said she had seven children and five of them were still living at the time.  So, it is likely that one or two of the three other children born in Norway were still living in 1900.

 

I went through the records for both Høle and Forsand in the 1860s, but I cannot find anything to show when the family left for North America.  Are you able to find anything about when the family emigrated and which family members left?  

 

Before I do any further research, I want to figure out whether any of the children had died before they left Noway.

 

 

Again, thank you for your time and help.

[Anton Hagelee]

20 minutes ago, David Arvidson said:

The Norwegian marriage record seems to show Anna was born about 1828 while the American records show she was born about 1834.  Not sure that anyone can address that, but it seems a little odd.

 

Both records could be just giving you an approximate birth year. You will need to find the original birth record in the DA records to be sure what the date is. 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

24 minutes ago, David Arvidson said:

o me, it looks like Bjørn and Anna continued to live in the same area in Norway, but that maybe parish boundaries were changed so they went from living in Høle parish to living in Forsand parish.  Does that seem likely to you?

 

 

Here is a link to information on Family Search on the Strand Parish and Forsand and a map that might prove useful  for Strand Parish Høle Sub-Parish and Forsand and Høgsfjord. You will see they are close together. 

 

 

"Forsand (Fossan) is now in Høgsfjord clerical district. Høle and Forsand (Fossan) belonged to Strand clerical district until 1864. These records are available on microfilm at the FamilySearch Library;

 

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Rogaland_County,_Norway_Genealogy

 

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Strand_Parish,_Rogaland,_Norway_Genealogy

 

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Forsand_(Fossan)_Parish,_Rogaland,_Norway_Genealogy

[Jostein Stokke]

2 hours ago, Anton Hagelee said:

Gunnar Ivarsen Lyse

1797–1850

BIRTH 1797 • Lyse, Høle, Strand, Rogaland, Norway

DEATH 28 APR 1850

 Left page - right column - 23 Juky

Gunder - parents Ivar Olson og Ingeborg Christophersdtr Lyse, Høie

Strand sokneprestkontor, SAST/A-101828/H/Ha/Haa/L0003: Ministerialbok nr. A 3, 1769-1816, s. 32
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070626650055

 

 

 

[Jostein Stokke]

2 hours ago, Anton Hagelee said:

Gunnar Ivarsen Lyse

1797–1850

BIRTH 1797 • Lyse, Høle, Strand, Rogaland, Norway

DEATH 28 APR 1850

Family at census 1801

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01058356001312

[Jostein Stokke]

Here they are in the bygdebok

https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2017072107047?page=97

[Anton Hagelee]

3 hours ago, David Arvidson said:

I went through the records for both Høle and Forsand in the 1860s, but I cannot find anything to show when the family left for North America.  Are you able to find anything about when the family emigrated and which family members left?  

 

No I also looked at the parish records for Høle, Strand, Forsund and Høgsfjord. Looked at the pages in each parish for emigration from 1861 to 1865. We know that the youngest son was born in 1860 Nr 50 and the family seems to be missing in the 1865 Census. 

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/6211307:60606

 

The 1900 Census for Jakob lists his emigration year as 1863. The records for arrival in 1863 are slim to none.  The ships from wester Norway in 1863 all seem to have travelled to Quebec. Unfortunately Canada doid not not record entries into Canada until 1865.

 

http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_year.asp?ye=1863

 

Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1263/

 

 

 

 

Endret November 28, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

2 hours ago, Jostein Stokke said:

Here they are in the bygdebok

https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_20170721G07047?page=97

 

Good find Jostein, However, unless David has a Norwegian IP address he will not be able to look at the pages you found in the Bygdebok. Can you post the info on page 97 for us to look at. Does the bygdebok mention Bjjørn Gunnarsen and the year he left Norway?

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

3 hours ago, David Arvidson said:

The 1900 census from Iowa shows that Anna said she had seven children and five of them were still living at the time.  So, it is likely that one or two of the three other children born in Norway were still living in 1900.

 

Could you post a link to the Census from 1900 for Anna. 

 

What is the oldest Census do you have for the family. Have you found any from 1870?

[David Arvidson]

I am attaching a link to the 1900 census.  I believe that Annie Petersen is the same person as Anna Jakobsdatter Gunderson because the census shows that she has a granddaughter named Frances Edwards and I know that Frances is Jacob's daughter.

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/14341851:7602?ssrc=pt&tid=162660379&pid=372243561050

 

I cannot find any of the family members in the 1870 census.  I can find Jacob in the 1880 census in Earlville and Annie and Peter in the 1880 census in Hampton, IA.  It really bothers me that I cannot find anyone in the 1870 census.

 

The 1900 census shows that Annie has been married for 29 years and her oldest listed son was born in 1876 in Iowa.  It is possible that Annie got married in Earlville, IL, but I am not sure of that.  The Lutheran church records for the area start with marriages in 1875.

[Anton Hagelee]

23 minutes ago, David Arvidson said:

am attaching a link to the 1900 census.  I believe that Annie Petersen is the same person as Anna Jakobsdatter Gunderson because the census shows that she has a granddaughter named Frances Edwards and I know that Frances is Jacob's daughter.

 

Yes I would agree with that conclusion. Other things indicate that as well. For a marriage of Nels P Peterson her son with Peter Peterson she is given the name Anna Gunderson. So likely that she uses the name Gunderson in the 1870 Census. 

 

Anna Gunderson

in the Iowa, U.S., Marriage Records, 1880-1947

NameAnna Gunderson

GenderFemale

SpousePeter Peterson

ChildN P Peterson

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1203622135:8823

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Interesting that there is two marriage records for the marriage  og Nils P Peterson on Ancestry.com.One in 1893 and one in 1919.  In the first  record she is called Anne Christena Olsen. 

 

Nels Peter Peterson

in the Iowa, U.S., Select Marriages Index, 1758-1996

NameNels Peter Peterson

GenderMale

RaceWhite

Birth Date1871

Birth PlaceMaquoketa

Marriage Date09 May 1893

Marriage PlaceFranklin, Iowa

Marriage Age22

FatherPeter Peterson

MotherAnne Christena Olsen

SpouseMinnie Belle Ashworth

FHL Film Number1481259

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2221925:60284

 

 

 

 

[David Arvidson]

I have a message into the Franklin County (Iowa) Historical Society.  I am hoping they can find an obituary for either Anna or Jacob or Peter Petersen.  

 

I might try the La Salle County (Illinois) Historical Society.  They were able to provide some help a few years ago.

 

I also have a distant relative who does genealogical research.  I hope my newly found information might prompt her to come up with some ideas.

 

Otherwise, I think I might be stuck.

 

Thanks for all of your help.

[Jostein Stokke]

14 hours ago, Anton Hagelee said:

Good find Jostein, However, unless David has a Norwegian IP address he will not be able to look at the pages you found in the Bygdebok. Can you post the info on page 97 for us to look at. Does the bygdebok mention Bjjørn Gunnarsen and the year he left Norway?

 

Ivar Olsen Lyse (1759 – 1810) – married 1786 to Ingeborg Kristoffersdatter Håheller (1766 – 1842)

 

His parents were Ola Rasmussen (Håheller) Lyse and Gunhild Ivarsdatter Lyse

Her parents were Kristoffer Ivarson (lyse) Håheller and Eli Rasmusdatter Håheller

 

Ivar and Ingeborg had 11 children and #6 was:

Gunnar Ivarson Lyse (1797 - 1850)

In 1824 he married Gunhild Bjørnsdatter (Sandal under Brathetland) (1785 - 1858)

She was the daughter of Bjørn Johannesson (Sandalen) and Anna Bjørnsdatter

 

Gunnar and Gunhild settled at Pannevik (under Nedre Eiane)

(Gunhild suffered from leprosy for more than 30 years)

 

They had 2 children:

Ingeborg Gunnarsdatter (1825 – 1845)

Bjørn Gunnarson (1827 - ?)

 

Inov 12 1848 Bjørn Gunnarson married Anna Kristina Jakobsdatter (Kåsen) – born in 1829.

Her parents were Jaokob Olsen Kåsen, Lyse, Ullestad in Årdal and Anna Serina Jakobsdatter (SaBakken).

 

The children were:

Inger Gurina Bjørnsdatter (1850 - ?)

Jakob Bjørnson (1853 - ?)

Gunhild Bjørnsdatter(1857)

Gunnar Bjørnson (1860 - )

 

They left Pannevik before (census)1865.

The bygdebok says:

"Bjørn traveled with his family – probably to Amerika.

Did they travel with Anna Kristina's father Jakob Olsen – who emigrated about 1860?"

 

https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2017072107047?page=97

https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_digibok_2017072107047?page=309

 

[Jostein Stokke]

14 minutes ago, Jostein Stokke said:

Gunnar Bjørnson (1860 - )

He was born June 23 and bapt July 8 1860 - so they emigrated after that

Number 50

Høgsfjord sokneprestkontor, SAST/A-101624/H/Ha/Haa/L0001: Ministerialbok nr. A 1, 1854-1875, s. 28
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051209020032

 

 

[Jostein Stokke]

42 minutes ago, Jostein Stokke said:

Gunhild Bjørnsdatter(1857)

Died June 9 1858

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/267/pg00000005721957

[David Arvidson]

Anton and Jostein and Anne,

 

Thank you for all of your help.  I have now found enough information about Jacob's ancestors that I can spend years researching those parts of the family tree.

 

Dave