Ole Olsen Tangen, Mellomgarden, Konsvinger

[Robert Jardine]

Jeg søker etter gravopplysninger for Ole Olsen Tangen, f/ 6.6.1822, d. 05.10.1902. Vi er på besøk i Norge i august og ønsker å finne graven hans. Vi er fra Canada. Takk!

[Jackie K Marler]

What record has given you the information in your post?

[Robert Jardine]

It comes from the Vinger Bygdebok, Bind III, Austmarka Med Varaldskog, 1977

[Jackie K Marler]

So is this your guy?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038039001028

 

And this one?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052733003424

 

And this one?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037058002875

Endret Juli 1, 2024 av Jackie K Marler

[Allan Frantzen]

Maybe this Ole, Dead nr 6 : https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/4986/214

 

 

[Allan Frantzen]

10 minutter siden, Robert Jardine skrev:

It comes from the Vinger Bygdebok, Bind III, Austmarka Med Varaldskog, 1977

https://www.nb.no/items/51042438c804c833d164dfcd9176440e?page=547&searchText="ole olsen tangen"

[Jackie K Marler]

5 minutes ago, Allan Frantzen said:

Maybe this Ole, Dead nr 6 : https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/4986/214

 

 

#7 this page

[Jackie K Marler]

If it is in the Austmarka section this church:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austmarka_Church

[Jackie K Marler]

One thing to be aware of is, he might still be there but without a marker or he might have been removed entirely.  In Norway graves get re-used, just sayin'

[Robert Jardine]

30 minutes ago, Jackie K Marler said:

So is this your guy?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038039001028

 

And this one?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052733003424

 

And this one?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037058002875

 

31 minutes ago, Jackie K Marler said:

So is this your guy?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038039001028

 

And this one?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052733003424

 

And this one?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037058002875

Yes,  this is our Ole Tangen! he is my wife's g-g-grandfather.

[Robert Jardine]

20 minutes ago, Jackie K Marler said:

One thing to be aware of is, he might still be there but without a marker or he might have been removed entirely.  In Norway graves get re-used, just sayin'

Good to know - thanks!!!

[Robert Jardine]

If I contact the Austmarka Church will they be able to tell me if his grave is visible?

 

And would they be able to tell me if other members of the family are buried there?

 

Thank you for all of your help!!

 

Robert

[Jackie K Marler]

Who all came to North America?

[Jackie K Marler]

5 hours ago, Robert Jardine said:

If I contact the Austmarka Church will they be able to tell me if his grave is visible?

 

And would they be able to tell me if other members of the family are buried there?

 

Thank you for all of your help!!

 

Robert

It appears that at least some of the burials at Austmarka are in Findagrave:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/209177816/ingrid-tangen

 

There are only 20 or so listed.  You can search here:

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2704491/austmarka-church-cemetery

Endret Juli 2, 2024 av Jackie K Marler

[Inger Hohler]

7 hours ago, Robert Jardine said:

If I contact the Austmarka Church will they be able to tell me if his grave is visible?

 

And would they be able to tell me if other members of the family are buried there?

His grave stone does not appear to be visible.

I was not able to find your Ole Tangen (nor by the name of Ole Olsen, nor by the name Ole Nygaard/Nygård) in 'Finn grav' (Find a grave) under Austmarka. https://www.slektogdata.no/gravminner/finn-en-grav
Still, most likely he has not been removed from the place he was laid to rest. If no one pays for the grave marker to stay in place, the graves are re-used after a time, when the content of the grave are believed to be fully decomposed.

 

If he had descendants who stayed in the area, they may have re-used the grave for other family members. This is quite common. Graves (at least in the churchyard my family is using) are registered on the person who was last buried there.
Grave stones are only allowed to have certain dimensions nowadays, without special permits. The largest normal sized stone may have room for names and dates for 4 people.  If the same family re-uses a grave, they have several options. They may put up a grave marker for 'The X family', or simply add more names to the existing grave stone (as long as there is space), or replace a full stone with a new marker not mentioning previous 'inhabitants' - or only the names of the last few generations. As your ancestor died in 1902, is is quite likely that even if the grave was kept in the family, there would not be room for this Ole Olsen on a present stone. 

The 'bygdebok' says your Ole Olsen moved in with his son Ole Olsen who lived on the farm Nygård. 

The 'Finn grav' site has 25 people by the name of Tangen, and 4 by the name of Nygård.  

The Nygård farm eventually went to Ole Olsen Sr. 's daughter Berthea and her husband Edvard Torkildsen. Edvard had a family connection to the farm Fagernes from which Nygård was partitioned. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000002650026 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01073714004059
This couple had a daughter Laura born 07.04.1905 according to the 1920 census. She lies buried as Laura Nygård in the Austmarka cementry. So does her brother Ole Edvard born 17.06.1895 and the brother Martin born 24.01.1900.

 

[Robert Jardine]

Thank you so much for your help Inger.

My wife will be the first member of her family to visit the family farm from which her Tangen ancestors emigrated in 1903.

If the graves aren't visible then we may pass up a visit to the Austmarka church in favour of other sights in the area.

 

Robert

[Robert Jardine]

7 hours ago, Jackie K Marler said:

Who all came to North America?

Arne Olsen Tangen (b. 18/5 1855), his wife Elise Bertea Syversdatter Masterudvangen (b. 1876) and their children:

• Marie Arnesdatter 17/2/1897
• Solveig Arnesdatter 14/9/1898
• Ole Arnesen 30/8/1902
• Arne Arnesen 13/3/1902 (my wife's grandfather)