Emigrerte til USA

[Jackie K Marler]

Okay, so the John Olson married to Mary or Marit cannot be the target immigrant Johan Olsen Tveter.

[Anton Hagelee]

Does not look very likely. Probably with a little more searching we can find out who he is.  His wife is likely this lady

 

Maret Nielsdatter

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000012831069

 

The tree on Family Search shows his wife is from Møre og Romsdal 

 

 

Endret Januar 3 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

This may be an obit on John Olsen

 

John Olson

in the U.S., Newspapers.com™ Obituary Index, 1800s-current

NameJohn Olson

GenderMale

Death Age67

Birth Dateabt 1879

Residence PlaceMadison, Dane, Wisconsin, USA

Death DateAbt 1946

Death PlaceMadison, Dane, Wisconsin, USA

Obituary Date13 Nov 1946

Obituary PlaceMadison, Wisconsin, USA

Newspaper TitleThe Capital Times

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61843/records/5535328?tid=9372766&pid=302293527820&queryId=9809a655-b126-4609-9e5d-3b42cd199303&_phsrc=dik8&_phstart=successSource

 

 

[Jackie K Marler]

#3 in 1915 Johan's father Ole Johannessen is listed as enkemand but residing on Tveter:

Skjeberg prestekontor Kirkebøker, AV/SAO-A-10923/F/Fa/L0011: Ministerialbok nr. I 11, 1912-1939, s. 328
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb10111408110310

 

#6 female side of page mother Lovise Hansd:

Skjeberg prestekontor Kirkebøker, AV/SAO-A-10923/F/Fa/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. I 10, 1898-1911, s. 244
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060511070588

 

Unfortunately, there is a gap in the dodsfallsprotokol for Skjeberg at the time of Ole's death in 1915.

Endret Januar 3 av Jackie K Marler

[Jackie K Marler]

Family in 1900 census on tveter mellem:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037000003204

 

Family in 1910 census on tvete ostre:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036341004172

 

Family in 1920 census on Tveter mellem:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01073645003913

 

https://www.nb.no/items/98993459fb5d8e4aa4d4fcddb034585d?page=5&searchText="hans olsen tveter "

 

https://www.nb.no/items/08758b05f4f5704a0a8f514826c74306?page=3&searchText="martin olsen tveter "

Endret Januar 3 av Jackie K Marler

[Jackie K Marler]

Probably Johan in 1900 census:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036994002497

[Anton Hagelee]

31 minutes ago, Jackie K Marler said:

Probably Johan in 1900 census:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036994002497

 

And in 1891

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052676001935

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is the screen shot of the passage of a John Olson from Canada to US in 1913 that was posted on page one whose link is no longer useable. The original post assumed that Strasberg is actually Sarpsborg. Also this John has travelled between US and Canada several times. In US in 1902 1907  etc.

 

John Olsen

in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960

NameJohn Olsen

GenderMale

RaceScandinavian

Arrival Age35

Record TypeArrival

Birth Dateabt 1878

Birth PlaceStasberg, Norway

Arrival Date4 Jun 1913

Port of ArrivalInternational Falls, Minnesota, USA

FatherOle Johnson

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1075/records/2904479?tid=&pid=&queryId=8039d6c4-1c02-4b4c-b4b4-94c38d4a5bc5&_phsrc=gqI3&_phstart=successSource

 

Endret Januar 3 av Anton Hagelee

[Jackie K Marler]

Looks like he came to or through Quebec in 1898 on the Victorian?

 

He was working for N & O PowerCo at Int'l Falls.

 

Here is a little history of power of the Minnesota Power Co which today covers Int'l Falls:

"

Minnesota Power has its roots in a handful of electricity companies formed to provide power for a young community, the timber industry and mining interests in the late 1800s and early 1900s in northeastern Minnesota. As businesses thrived and the population grew in the mineral-rich and heavily forested area, several utility companies consolidated and then incorporated in 1906 as Duluth Edison Electric Co., the immediate predecessor of Minnesota Power.

In the early 1920s, six major electric utilities and many municipal and privately owned local plants were operating in what is now Minnesota Power’s service territory. By 1923, after acquiring and consolidating many regional utilities, the company became known as Minnesota Power and Light Co.

The stock of Minnesota Power and Light was first listed on the New York Stock Exchange in 1950 under the ticker symbol MPL. When the corporate name was changed to ALLETE, Inc. in 2000, the stock’s ticker symbol became ALE. Minnesota Power remains the largest division of ALLETE.

In the early days, the company relied on the region's rivers to generate hydropower to serve its customers. In fact, the incorporation papers of the Duluth Edison Electric Co., read in part "to improve, develop and use water power for heat, light and power purposes; and to develop, generate and use electric energy and currents for heat, light and power purposes, otherwise than by water power. ....."

 

Service area today:

So the power history in the area is a bit ragged.  So far I haven't found an N & O power co, although I suppose the O could stand for Ontario.

[Anton Hagelee]

The original OP  lists 1905 as the first time he traveled to America, so either he traveled more often or his memory was wrong when this document was filled out.  Or he is not the John Olsen we are looking for. 

Endret Januar 3 av Anton Hagelee

[Bjørn Olav Tveter]

15 timer siden, Jackie K Marler skrev:

Is this Johan Olsen the correct one?  #20 on the male half of the page:

Glemmen prestekontor Kirkebøker, AV/SAO-A-10908/F/Fa/L0011: Ministerialbok nr. 11, 1878-1917, s. 3
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060511020135

 

And in 1891 census residing on Tveter east:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052676001935

Yes this is the correct Johan. And the correct family on Tveter east.

Johanne is my great grandmother. Johans sister.

[Bjørn Olav Tveter]

16 timer siden, Anton Hagelee skrev:

This looks interesting even tho the birth date does not match and Mary is called Marit here. But he is a Carpenter

 

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LX2L-XPJ

 

John Olson

Migration • Wisconsin, Dane County Naturalization Records, 1887-1945

NameJohn Olson

SexMale

Age64 years

Birth Date

2 April 1877

BirthplaceBergen, Norway

Spouse's NameMarit Olson

Event TypeNaturalization

Event Date

7 June 1941

Event PlaceMadison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States

Event Place (Original)Madison, Dane, Wisconsin

Document TypeDeclaration of Intention

John Olson's Spouses and Children

OPEN ALL

Marit Olson

Spouse

 

I belive this is a different John Olson from Bergen.

[Bjørn Olav Tveter]

16 timer siden, Jackie K Marler skrev:

John Olson is a very common name.  How have you come to the conclusion that this Dane county John Olson is the correct one?

 

Using familysearch.org and the census selection at genealogybank.com, I find only one John Olson born about 1878 Norway and Mary combination in the 1910 census in Wisconsin, this couple in Chippewa Falls in 1910:

"United States, Census, 1910", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPVP-395 : Wed Mar 06 23:51:10 UTC 2024), Entry for John Olson and Mary Olson, 1910.

 

John is her 2nd husband, they have been married for only two years and she is the mother of 6 living children although none are listed in the household.  John is a house carpenter and is listed with an arrival year in US of 1899.

 

This information from myheritage lead me to johan/mary. But this is not a very strong lead. I may have the wrong John totaly…

But this information you have from 1910 looks interesting. Can we find who Mary was married to before she married John?

Could she be a relative to his uncle Hans Mathisen who travelled earlier?

 

[Anton Hagelee]

1 hour ago, Bjørn Olav Tveter said:

Yes this is the correct Johan. And the correct family on Tveter east.

Johanne is my great grandmother. Johans sister.

 

There are several Family Trees on Ancestry.com. They have John Olson as 

 

John Olson

1877–1946

BIRTH 2 APRIL 1877

DEATH 12 NOVEMBER 1946 • Madison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States

 

And that he married 7 November 1908 • Wisconsin, United States  to 

 

Marit Nielson Borseth Johnson

1861–1943

BIRTH 24 MAY 1861 • Christensund,, Norway

DEATH 12 MARCH 1943 • Madison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States

 

whose first marriage was 03 Jan 1886 • Chippawa Falls, Chippawa, Wisconsin  to

 

John Haaken ( Haakenson) Johnson

1862–1907

BIRTH 16 JUN 1862 • ,, Norway

DEATH 06 MAY 1907 • Eau Claire, Wisconsin, USA

 

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/87619202/person/34553875253/facts

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Maret is likely this lady 

 

Maret Nielsdatter

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000012831069

 

The tree on Ancestry  shows his wife is from Møre og Romsdal 

 

Here she is with her very large family in the 1900 Census

 

Mary Johnson

Census • United States, Census, 1900

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMV9-G2F

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

There are very few sources on John Olsen in the Family Trees on Ancestry.com. Only this one for his WWI Draft Record.. The one thing that shows up in most if not all is the census records is the occupation of Carpenter. That also shows up in this WWI Draft Record which also shows his birth datel. 

 

John Olson

in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

NameJohn Olson

RaceWhite

Birth Date2 Apr 1877

Residence Date1917-1918

Street Address1518 St James St

Residence PlaceMadison, Dane, Wisconsin, USA

Physical BuildMedium

HeightMedium

Hair ColorBrown

Eye ColorBrown

RelativeMary Olson

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/6482/records/17056576?tid=87619202&pid=34553875260&ssrc=pt

 

Endret Januar 3 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

First husband for Mary.

 

John H Johnson

in the Wisconsin, U.S., Marriage Records, 1820-2004

NameJohn H Johnson

GenderMale

Marriage Date2 Jan 1886

Marriage CountyIowa, Wisconsin, USA

SpouseMary N Boresth

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61484/records/1858649?tid=87619202&pid=34553875253&queryId=a53dfd7a-cdfd-4423-b6bb-351d68b5ee75&_phsrc=hEw1&_phstart=successSource

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

John H. Johnson

in the Wisconsin, U.S., Death Records, 1872-2004

NameJohn H. Johnson

Death Date7 May 1907

Death CountyWisconsin, USA

Father

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61483/records/2788022?tid=87619202&pid=34553875253&queryId=035fc451-547a-4696-9b1c-06931be58978&_phsrc=hEw3&_phstart=successSource

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Johannes

Birth • Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4M8-DLN

[Anton Hagelee]

 

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/K24Q-RWD

 

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LTZR-2SX

Endret Januar 4 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Maret lived with her new husband John Olson in the 1910 Census. The younger children lived with the daughter Nora Johnson. 

 

Nova Johnson

in the 1910 United States Federal Census

NameNova Johnson[Nora Johnson]Age in 191020Birth Date1890[1890]BirthplaceWisconsinHome in 1910Linden, Iowa, Wisconsin, USASheet Number18aRaceWhiteGenderFemaleRelation to Head of HouseSister-in-lawMarital StatusSingleFather's BirthplaceNorwayMother's BirthplaceNorwayNative TongueEnglishOccupationDressmakerIndustryWorking OutEmployer, Employee or OtherWage EarnerAble to readYesAble to WriteYesEnumeration District Number0057Out of WorkNNumber of Weeks Out of Work0Enumerated Year1910NeighborsView others on page

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship

Eddie Rule33Head

Laura Rule30Wife

Mildred Rule6Daughter

Wilma Rule4Daughter

Joseph Rule71Father

Nova Johnson20Sister-in-law

Clara Johnson16Sister-in-law

Elmer Johnson13Brother-in-law

John Johnson11Brother-in-law

Belle Brunsdale53Sister-in-law

Thomas Gergram49Brother-in-law

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/7884/records/30729262?tid=87619202&pid=34553875256&ssrc=pt

 

 

[Jackie K Marler]

The world is small.  The undertaker Martin P Hogseth was married to a first cousin of my great grandfather!

[Bjørn Olav Tveter]

12 timer siden, Anton Hagelee skrev:

Here is the screen shot of the passage of a John Olson from Canada to US in 1913 that was posted on page one whose link is no longer useable. The original post assumed that Strasberg is actually Sarpsborg. Also this John has travelled between US and Canada several times. In US in 1902 1907  etc.

 

John Olsen

in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960

NameJohn Olsen

GenderMale

RaceScandinavian

Arrival Age35

Record TypeArrival

Birth Dateabt 1878

Birth PlaceStasberg, Norway

Arrival Date4 Jun 1913

Port of ArrivalInternational Falls, Minnesota, USA

FatherOle Johnson

 

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1075/records/2904479?tid=&pid=&queryId=8039d6c4-1c02-4b4c-b4b4-94c38d4a5bc5&_phsrc=gqI3&_phstart=successSource

 

I belive this is the wrong John Olson. The date and year is wrong, the birthplace is wrong (northwest norway) and the fathers name is wrong (Johnson).

Also «Marit Nielson Borseth Johnson» is from northwest of norway (Kristiansund).

[Jackie K Marler]

A long shot Johan Olson with an interesting travel history, first arriving in US in 1905, this time coming from Segerstad (?) in Sweden in 1906 also born in Sweden:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9PY-43NB?view=index&action=view&cc=1368704

[Jackie K Marler]

Today, I used Ancestry Library edition and searched for Norwegians with the exact birthdate of Johan  27 or 28 July 1878 with birthplace specified as Norway every name in World War I draft registration cards  and found only one a Peter Olson who was an unemployed laborer living at Duluth, Minnesota but actually born at Christiansund.  No luck!

 

I also searched in the "old man" draft WWII draft registration cards and for each date 27 July or 28 July 1878 there were 5 Norwegians but none with a name resembling Johan Olson Tveter and they also have a variety of birthplaces in addition to the country but none resembling Glemmen nor Skjeberg nor Sarpsborg.  No luck!