Jackie K Marler Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Okay, so the John Olson married to Mary or Marit cannot be the target immigrant Johan Olsen Tveter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) Does not look very likely. Probably with a little more searching we can find out who he is. His wife is likely this lady Maret Nielsdatter https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000012831069 The tree on Family Search shows his wife is from Møre og Romsdal Edited January 3 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 This may be an obit on John Olsen John Olson in the U.S., Newspapers.com™ Obituary Index, 1800s-current NameJohn Olson GenderMale Death Age67 Birth Dateabt 1879 Residence PlaceMadison, Dane, Wisconsin, USA Death DateAbt 1946 Death PlaceMadison, Dane, Wisconsin, USA Obituary Date13 Nov 1946 Obituary PlaceMadison, Wisconsin, USA Newspaper TitleThe Capital Times https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61843/records/5535328?tid=9372766&pid=302293527820&queryId=9809a655-b126-4609-9e5d-3b42cd199303&_phsrc=dik8&_phstart=successSource Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie K Marler Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) #3 in 1915 Johan's father Ole Johannessen is listed as enkemand but residing on Tveter: Skjeberg prestekontor Kirkebøker, AV/SAO-A-10923/F/Fa/L0011: Ministerialbok nr. I 11, 1912-1939, s. 328 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb10111408110310 #6 female side of page mother Lovise Hansd: Skjeberg prestekontor Kirkebøker, AV/SAO-A-10923/F/Fa/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. I 10, 1898-1911, s. 244 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060511070588 Unfortunately, there is a gap in the dodsfallsprotokol for Skjeberg at the time of Ole's death in 1915. Edited January 3 by Jackie K Marler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie K Marler Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) Family in 1900 census on tveter mellem: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037000003204 Family in 1910 census on tvete ostre: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036341004172 Family in 1920 census on Tveter mellem: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01073645003913 https://www.nb.no/items/98993459fb5d8e4aa4d4fcddb034585d?page=5&searchText="hans olsen tveter " https://www.nb.no/items/08758b05f4f5704a0a8f514826c74306?page=3&searchText="martin olsen tveter " Edited January 3 by Jackie K Marler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie K Marler Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Probably Johan in 1900 census: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036994002497 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 31 minutes ago, Jackie K Marler said: Probably Johan in 1900 census: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036994002497 And in 1891 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052676001935 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) Here is the screen shot of the passage of a John Olson from Canada to US in 1913 that was posted on page one whose link is no longer useable. The original post assumed that Strasberg is actually Sarpsborg. Also this John has travelled between US and Canada several times. In US in 1902 1907 etc. John Olsen in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960 NameJohn Olsen GenderMale RaceScandinavian Arrival Age35 Record TypeArrival Birth Dateabt 1878 Birth PlaceStasberg, Norway Arrival Date4 Jun 1913 Port of ArrivalInternational Falls, Minnesota, USA FatherOle Johnson https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1075/records/2904479?tid=&pid=&queryId=8039d6c4-1c02-4b4c-b4b4-94c38d4a5bc5&_phsrc=gqI3&_phstart=successSource Edited January 3 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie K Marler Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Looks like he came to or through Quebec in 1898 on the Victorian? He was working for N & O PowerCo at Int'l Falls. Here is a little history of power of the Minnesota Power Co which today covers Int'l Falls: " Minnesota Power has its roots in a handful of electricity companies formed to provide power for a young community, the timber industry and mining interests in the late 1800s and early 1900s in northeastern Minnesota. As businesses thrived and the population grew in the mineral-rich and heavily forested area, several utility companies consolidated and then incorporated in 1906 as Duluth Edison Electric Co., the immediate predecessor of Minnesota Power. In the early 1920s, six major electric utilities and many municipal and privately owned local plants were operating in what is now Minnesota Power’s service territory. By 1923, after acquiring and consolidating many regional utilities, the company became known as Minnesota Power and Light Co. The stock of Minnesota Power and Light was first listed on the New York Stock Exchange in 1950 under the ticker symbol MPL. When the corporate name was changed to ALLETE, Inc. in 2000, the stock’s ticker symbol became ALE. Minnesota Power remains the largest division of ALLETE. In the early days, the company relied on the region's rivers to generate hydropower to serve its customers. In fact, the incorporation papers of the Duluth Edison Electric Co., read in part "to improve, develop and use water power for heat, light and power purposes; and to develop, generate and use electric energy and currents for heat, light and power purposes, otherwise than by water power. ....." Service area today: So the power history in the area is a bit ragged. So far I haven't found an N & O power co, although I suppose the O could stand for Ontario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) The original OP lists 1905 as the first time he traveled to America, so either he traveled more often or his memory was wrong when this document was filled out. Or he is not the John Olsen we are looking for. Edited January 3 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjørn Olav Tveter Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 15 timer siden, Jackie K Marler skrev: Is this Johan Olsen the correct one? #20 on the male half of the page: Glemmen prestekontor Kirkebøker, AV/SAO-A-10908/F/Fa/L0011: Ministerialbok nr. 11, 1878-1917, s. 3 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060511020135 And in 1891 census residing on Tveter east: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052676001935 Yes this is the correct Johan. And the correct family on Tveter east. Johanne is my great grandmother. Johans sister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjørn Olav Tveter Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 16 timer siden, Anton Hagelee skrev: This looks interesting even tho the birth date does not match and Mary is called Marit here. But he is a Carpenter https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LX2L-XPJ John Olson Migration • Wisconsin, Dane County Naturalization Records, 1887-1945 NameJohn Olson SexMale Age64 years Birth Date 2 April 1877 BirthplaceBergen, Norway Spouse's NameMarit Olson Event TypeNaturalization Event Date 7 June 1941 Event PlaceMadison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States Event Place (Original)Madison, Dane, Wisconsin Document TypeDeclaration of Intention John Olson's Spouses and Children OPEN ALL Marit Olson Spouse I belive this is a different John Olson from Bergen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjørn Olav Tveter Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 16 timer siden, Jackie K Marler skrev: John Olson is a very common name. How have you come to the conclusion that this Dane county John Olson is the correct one? Using familysearch.org and the census selection at genealogybank.com, I find only one John Olson born about 1878 Norway and Mary combination in the 1910 census in Wisconsin, this couple in Chippewa Falls in 1910: "United States, Census, 1910", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPVP-395 : Wed Mar 06 23:51:10 UTC 2024), Entry for John Olson and Mary Olson, 1910. John is her 2nd husband, they have been married for only two years and she is the mother of 6 living children although none are listed in the household. John is a house carpenter and is listed with an arrival year in US of 1899. This information from myheritage lead me to johan/mary. But this is not a very strong lead. I may have the wrong John totaly… But this information you have from 1910 looks interesting. Can we find who Mary was married to before she married John? Could she be a relative to his uncle Hans Mathisen who travelled earlier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Bjørn Olav Tveter said: Yes this is the correct Johan. And the correct family on Tveter east. Johanne is my great grandmother. Johans sister. There are several Family Trees on Ancestry.com. They have John Olson as John Olson 1877–1946 BIRTH 2 APRIL 1877 DEATH 12 NOVEMBER 1946 • Madison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States And that he married 7 November 1908 • Wisconsin, United States to Marit Nielson Borseth Johnson 1861–1943 BIRTH 24 MAY 1861 • Christensund,, Norway DEATH 12 MARCH 1943 • Madison, Dane, Wisconsin, United States whose first marriage was 03 Jan 1886 • Chippawa Falls, Chippawa, Wisconsin to John Haaken ( Haakenson) Johnson 1862–1907 BIRTH 16 JUN 1862 • ,, Norway DEATH 06 MAY 1907 • Eau Claire, Wisconsin, USA https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/87619202/person/34553875253/facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Maret is likely this lady Maret Nielsdatter https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000012831069 The tree on Ancestry shows his wife is from Møre og Romsdal Here she is with her very large family in the 1900 Census Mary Johnson Census • United States, Census, 1900 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMV9-G2F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) There are very few sources on John Olsen in the Family Trees on Ancestry.com. Only this one for his WWI Draft Record.. The one thing that shows up in most if not all is the census records is the occupation of Carpenter. That also shows up in this WWI Draft Record which also shows his birth datel. John Olson in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 NameJohn Olson RaceWhite Birth Date2 Apr 1877 Residence Date1917-1918 Street Address1518 St James St Residence PlaceMadison, Dane, Wisconsin, USA Physical BuildMedium HeightMedium Hair ColorBrown Eye ColorBrown RelativeMary Olson https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/6482/records/17056576?tid=87619202&pid=34553875260&ssrc=pt Edited January 3 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 First husband for Mary. John H Johnson in the Wisconsin, U.S., Marriage Records, 1820-2004 NameJohn H Johnson GenderMale Marriage Date2 Jan 1886 Marriage CountyIowa, Wisconsin, USA SpouseMary N Boresth https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61484/records/1858649?tid=87619202&pid=34553875253&queryId=a53dfd7a-cdfd-4423-b6bb-351d68b5ee75&_phsrc=hEw1&_phstart=successSource Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 John H. Johnson in the Wisconsin, U.S., Death Records, 1872-2004 NameJohn H. Johnson Death Date7 May 1907 Death CountyWisconsin, USA Father https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61483/records/2788022?tid=87619202&pid=34553875253&queryId=035fc451-547a-4696-9b1c-06931be58978&_phsrc=hEw3&_phstart=successSource Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Johannes Birth • Norway, Baptisms, 1634-1927 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4M8-DLN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/K24Q-RWD https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LTZR-2SX Edited January 4 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Maret lived with her new husband John Olson in the 1910 Census. The younger children lived with the daughter Nora Johnson. Nova Johnson in the 1910 United States Federal Census NameNova Johnson[Nora Johnson]Age in 191020Birth Date1890[1890]BirthplaceWisconsinHome in 1910Linden, Iowa, Wisconsin, USASheet Number18aRaceWhiteGenderFemaleRelation to Head of HouseSister-in-lawMarital StatusSingleFather's BirthplaceNorwayMother's BirthplaceNorwayNative TongueEnglishOccupationDressmakerIndustryWorking OutEmployer, Employee or OtherWage EarnerAble to readYesAble to WriteYesEnumeration District Number0057Out of WorkNNumber of Weeks Out of Work0Enumerated Year1910NeighborsView others on page Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship Eddie Rule33Head Laura Rule30Wife Mildred Rule6Daughter Wilma Rule4Daughter Joseph Rule71Father Nova Johnson20Sister-in-law Clara Johnson16Sister-in-law Elmer Johnson13Brother-in-law John Johnson11Brother-in-law Belle Brunsdale53Sister-in-law Thomas Gergram49Brother-in-law https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/7884/records/30729262?tid=87619202&pid=34553875256&ssrc=pt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie K Marler Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 The world is small. The undertaker Martin P Hogseth was married to a first cousin of my great grandfather! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjørn Olav Tveter Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 12 timer siden, Anton Hagelee skrev: Here is the screen shot of the passage of a John Olson from Canada to US in 1913 that was posted on page one whose link is no longer useable. The original post assumed that Strasberg is actually Sarpsborg. Also this John has travelled between US and Canada several times. In US in 1902 1907 etc. John Olsen in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960 NameJohn Olsen GenderMale RaceScandinavian Arrival Age35 Record TypeArrival Birth Dateabt 1878 Birth PlaceStasberg, Norway Arrival Date4 Jun 1913 Port of ArrivalInternational Falls, Minnesota, USA FatherOle Johnson https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/1075/records/2904479?tid=&pid=&queryId=8039d6c4-1c02-4b4c-b4b4-94c38d4a5bc5&_phsrc=gqI3&_phstart=successSource I belive this is the wrong John Olson. The date and year is wrong, the birthplace is wrong (northwest norway) and the fathers name is wrong (Johnson). Also «Marit Nielson Borseth Johnson» is from northwest of norway (Kristiansund). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie K Marler Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 A long shot Johan Olson with an interesting travel history, first arriving in US in 1905, this time coming from Segerstad (?) in Sweden in 1906 also born in Sweden: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9PY-43NB?view=index&action=view&cc=1368704 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie K Marler Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Today, I used Ancestry Library edition and searched for Norwegians with the exact birthdate of Johan 27 or 28 July 1878 with birthplace specified as Norway every name in World War I draft registration cards and found only one a Peter Olson who was an unemployed laborer living at Duluth, Minnesota but actually born at Christiansund. No luck! I also searched in the "old man" draft WWII draft registration cards and for each date 27 July or 28 July 1878 there were 5 Norwegians but none with a name resembling Johan Olson Tveter and they also have a variety of birthplaces in addition to the country but none resembling Glemmen nor Skjeberg nor Sarpsborg. No luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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