Lars Hanssen Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Hei, Har et par stk fra en familie som "forsvinner" for meg i Norge. Er det kanskje noen her som har noen gode innspill eller informasjon om hvordan jeg skal kunne finne de? Johannes Andreasson blir født i Lerdal, Färgelanda 05/10-1868 https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0019157_00032 Han bor ved en plass kalt Höghult helt frem til han 23/09-1887 flytter til Norge, og ser for meg ut som om det står Gressvik på innflyttingen: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0020717_00073 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060907040142 I de svenske HFL står det oppført at de har fått melding fra Walbo Häradsrätt om at han ble erklært død 06/06-1911. Det er ikke tilgjengelig data fra Häradsrätten online for en slik evnt attest eller lignende, så jeg får ikke verifisert at det er "rett" Johannes som de har meldt dødsfall om heller, eller evnt tilleggsopplysninger de har om dette. #4 på linken under: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0046860_00065 Når moren dør i 1899, så står det i skiftet hennes at både han og søsteren hans, Sara Justina f 15/02-1873 begge bor i Norge. Sara Justina har etter Husförhörene opprinnelig flyttet til amerika i 1889, men 10 år senere skal hun altså oppholde seg i Norge hun også. I mitt stille sinn, så har jeg basert på den informasjonen antatt at Johannes burde være å finne i de norske folketellingene i 1891, 1900 og 1910. Men ingen av folketellingene har gitt meg noen gode spor.. Jeg har funnet noen "kandidater" som ved feilinnføring av fødselsår kunne vært aktuelle, men når de spores bakover, så kan det ikke stemme med denne Johannes. Dette gjelder blant annet Johannes f 1848 fra Sverige som i FT er oppført som boende ved Bossum og gift med Sara, i FT 1891 bor han med sin mor, som ikke er Johannes sin mor... Han er innført som død i mai 1911, så relativt nære i dato for dødforklaringen i Sverige, men informasjonen fra de norske folketellingene får jeg ikke til å stemme med hans familieforhold/fødsel mm... MyHeritage gir meg noen treff på Sara Justina, men ingen som viser noe konkret med kilder om hvor hun ble av. Noen har lagt til en datter som er født 1898 i Illonois, noe som kanskje dårlig stemmer med tanke på bouppteckningen etter moren som sier at hun bor i Norge i 1899, deres 2 søstre bor i USA ihht samme bouppteckning. Det ligger også bilde på MH som med maskinskrift er påført "Solveig" Sara Justina Andreasson. Så om bildet faktisk er av henne, så kan det jo se ut som om hun har tatt seg det fornorskede navnet Solveig i dagligtale istedenfor Sara Justina. Heller ikke henne finner jeg noen spor av i norske kilder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grethe Flood Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) Ser at du allerede har funnet innflyttingen til Onsøy i 1887. Men tyder det til Gressvik. Her er innflyttingen i den søkbare basen over innflyttede svensker til Østfold 1812-1920 - her står det også Gressvik: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/6/pc00000000837509 Edited July 8, 2021 by Grethe Flood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) Fra Ancestry.com Sara Justina Andreasdotter in the Sweden, Selected Indexed Household Clerical Surveys, 1880-1893 Name:Sara Justina Andreasdotter Birth Date:15 feb 1873 Birth Place:Lerdal, Sverige (Sweden) Year Range:1886 - 1890 Residence :Gesäter, Älvsborg (Västra Götaland), Sverige (Sweden) Village, Farm, or Croft:Södra Kolsäter Moved Into Parish:16 dec 1887 Moved From:Lerdal, Sverige (Sweden) Moved Out of Parish:14 jun 1889 Moved To:Amerika (USA) GID Number:789.17.14500 Household Members: NameRelationship Johanna Matilda HansdotterHead Sara Justina Andreasdotter Edited July 8, 2021 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Sara Justina Andreasdotter in the Sweden, Emigrants Registered in Church Books, 1783-1991 Name:Sara Justina Andreasdotter Gender:Kvinna (Female) Birth Date:15 feb 1873 Birth Place:Lerdal, Älvsborg (Västra Götaland) Departure Date:14 jun 1889 Departure Place:Gesäter, Älvsborg (Västra Götaland) Arrival Place:Amerika (USA) Occupation or Relation:Piga Marital status:Unmarried (Single) Notes:Travels alone Page:17 Original Page:46 Source:Hfl.1886-1890 Gesäter Household Members: Name Sara Justina Andreasdotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias Kolberg Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Her er lenke direkte til husförhörslengden som sier Sara Justina flyttet til Amerika 14.6.1889 LÄNK https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0043756_00057 KÄLLHÄNVISNING Gesäters kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/GLA/13150/A I/13 (1886-1890), bildid: C0043756_00057, sida 46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) Sara J Sperry i New York kan være kandidat? Sarah Jennie Sperry in the U.S., Passport Applications, 1795-1925 Name:Sarah Jennie Sperry Age:42 Birth Date:15 Feb 1873 Birth Place:Dolsland, Sweden Residence Place:New York City, New York Passport Issue Date:25 Mar 1915 Has Photo:Yes Certificate Number:53613 Edited July 8, 2021 by Anton Hagelee Sven Hjortland and Lars Hanssen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Sarah Jame Sperry in the New York, New York, U.S., Index to Birth Certificates, 1866-1909 Name:Sarah Jame Sperry Maiden Name:Hoglund Gender :Female Residence Age:33 Birth Place:Sweden Residence Address:3rd Street Number of Children Born:1 Number of Children Living:2 Certificate Number:13290 Spouse:Henry Sperry Child:Henry Muhlenberg Sperry Sven Hjortland and Lars Hanssen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) Far Ancestry.com, Datteren Margaret ble født i Illinois. Sara J Sperry in the 1910 United States Federal Census Name:Sara J Sperry Age in 1910:37 Birth Date:1873[1873] Birthplace:Sweden Home in 1910:Brooklyn Ward 22, Kings, New York, USA Street:Second Street Race:White Gender:Female Immigration Year:1889 Relation to Head of House:Head Marital Status:Divorced Father's Birthplace:Sweden Mother's Birthplace:Sweden Native Tongue:English Occupation:Own Income Home Owned or Rented:Rent Farm or House:House Able to read:Yes Able to Write:Yes Number of Children Born:2 Number of Children Living:2 Neighbors:View others on page Household MembersAgeRelationship Sara J Sperry37Head Margaret Sperry14Daughter Henry M Sperry Jr.3Son https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5M6-L1B https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/GCXY-RWC Edited July 8, 2021 by Anton Hagelee Lars Hanssen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Sarah Jame Sperry in the New York, New York, U.S., Index to Birth Certificates, 1866-1909 https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:2WDS-P46 Sarah Jame Sperry in the New York, New York, U.S., Index to Birth Certificates, 1866-1909 Name:Sarah Jame Sperry Maiden Name:Hoglund Gender :Female Residence Age:33 Birth Place:Sweden Residence Address:3rd Street Number of Children Born:1 Number of Children Living:2 Certificate Number:13290 Spouse:Henry Sperry Child:Henry Muhlenberg Sperry Lars Hanssen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/24333423:2704?tid=&pid=&queryId=bfb98ad856698e2306288a146baa693e&_phsrc=ITW12833&_phstart=successSource Name: Sara J Sperry Gender: Female Color or Race: White Age: 50 Birth Date: abt 1875 Birth Place: Sweden Residence Date: 1925 House Number: 19 Residence Place: New York, New York Relationship: Mother-in-law Number of years in US: 35 Assembly District: 23 Line Number: 03 Page number: 4 Household Members Age Relationship Margaret Lund 29 Wife Dora M Lund 0 Daughter Sara J Sperry 50 Mother-in-law Lars Hanssen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 ?? https://www.newspapers.com/clip/81051539/sarah-j-sperry/ Lars Hanssen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 https://www.newspapers.com/clip/81051746/obit-sarah-j-sperry/ Lars Hanssen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/207557623/henry-muhlenberg-sperry Lars Hanssen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 https://kbharkiv.dk/brug-samlingerne/soeg-i-indtastede-kilder/post/17-1129575 Lars Hanssen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 https://kbharkiv.dk/brug-samlingerne/soeg-i-indtastede-kilder/post/17-730248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Kan dette være Sara Andersdatter-utvandring fra Norge i 1889? https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9/og00000000022331 Ankomst, men Russia er feil. Sarah Andersen in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 Name:Sarah Andersen Gender:Female Ethnicity/ Nationality:Russian Age:16 Birth Date:abt 1873 Place of Origin:Russia Departure Port:Boulogne, France and Rotterdam, Netherlands Destination:USA Arrival Date:11 Jul 1889 Arrival Port:New York, New York, USA Ship Name:Veendam Lars Hanssen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Ovenfor Sara ligger Ole E Berg og familie. Her er Ole E Berg og familie utvandring fra Oslo i 1889 også. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000022335 Ole E Berg in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 Name:Ole E Berg Gender:Male Ethnicity/ Nationality:German Age:33 Birth Date:abt 1856 Place of Origin:Germany Departure Port:Boulogne, France and Rotterdam, Netherlands Destination:USA Arrival Date:11 Jul 1889 Arrival Port:New York, New York, USA Ship Name:Veendam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Henry M. Sperry Jr in the U.S., Applications for Seaman's Protection Certificates, 1916-1940 Name:Henry M. Sperry Jr Age:18 Birth Date:16 May 1906 Birth Place:Nyc Application Date:11 Jun 1924 Application Place:New York, New York, USA Record Type:Application Lars Hanssen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Henry Muhlenberg Sperry in the U.S., Consular Reports of Marriages, 1910-1949 Name:Henry Muhlenberg Sperry Age:40 Birth Year:abt 1906 Birth Place:New York City, New York Spouse's Name:Ansie Sun Ying Lee Spouse's Age:31 Spouse's Birth Year:abt 1915 Spouse's Birth Place:Hong Kong Marriage Date:6 Jul 1946 Marriage Place:Cathedral of The Holy Trinity, Shanghai, China Consular Location:Shanghai, China File Number:133 Certificate in File:Yes Lars Hanssen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Henry Muhlenberg Sperry in the UK, Foreign and Overseas Registers of British Subjects, 1628-1969 Name:Henry Muhlenberg Sperry Gender:Male Birth Date:abt 1906 Marriage Age:40 Marriage Date:6 Jul 1946 Marriage Place:Kiangsu, China Event Type:Marriage Father:Henry Muhlenberg Sperry Spouse:Ansie Sun-Ying Lee Spouse Gender:Female Spouse Marriage Age:31 Father-in-law:Lee Hysan Piece Description:RG 33: Foreign Registers and Returns, 1627-1960 Lars Hanssen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Hanssen Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 Her kom det en del forslag på en het kandidat for Sara Justina ihvertfall ja! Mange takk for alle innspill der, og rundt hennes evnt videre familie! Skal se om jeg klarer å finne noen kilder som kan bevise at Sara Jennie Hoglund/Sperry = Sara Justina Andreasdotter videre da. 🙂 Ingen som har noen forslag, tips eller innspill på hennes bror Johannes som da egentlig burde vært funnet i Norge og området rundt Fredrikstad/Gressvik/Onsøy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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