Jan Stuart Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Hello, I am a senior, who resides in Canada, and am trying to research an ancestor of mine. I don't read/write Norweigan so find researching very difficult. I am hopeing someone can help me. AGOT NIELSEN TROSTERUD (BORN ANDERSDATTER) Marries Niels Nielsen Trosterud in 1803??? I would like to know: Agot's full name before marriage Her parents Names mother/father When/where she was born when she was baptised when she passed away (died) Siblings I would appreciate any help forum members may offer Thank you Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketil Firing Hanssen Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Their marriage in 1803 (May 28th, no. 3 from the bottom on the right page) https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061107010398 Probably Aagot in the 1801 census (needs to be supported by other sources): 037 Aagaath Andersdatter - 0117 Disen - 003 - Tellingskretsoversikt - Folketelling 1801 for 0218aP Aker prestegjeld - Digitalarkivet Nils and Aagot's son Christen's baptism in 1803: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012824036 Nils and Aagot's son Christen's baptism in 1804: Nils Nils - Ministerialbok for Aker prestegjeld 1786-1809 (0218Q) - Digitalarkivet Nils and Aagot's daughter Anne Karine's baptism in 1806: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012826071 Nils and Aagot's son Christen's baptism in 1807: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012827088 Nils and Aagot's daughter Anne Karine's baptism in 1811: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012818343 Nils and Aagot's son Niels's baptism in 1814: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012822644 Nils and Aagot's son Anders's baptism in 1817: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000039100691 Edited October 18, 2023 by Ketil Firing Hanssen one more child Gunnar Sigdestad and Anne-Lise Hansen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketil Firing Hanssen Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Niels Nielsen Trosterud died March 7, 1850 in Oslo at age 76. Be aware that the registered age can be inaccurate. He was a butcher and married (i.e. his wife survived him). https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pg00000000404856 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Stuart Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 Hello Ketil Thank you for the record. I am unable to find any information about Agot (aka Aagaath, Aagat, Aagot, etc.) Also, I am unable to find any further information about Niels Nielsen Trosterud, his parents. I am finding the DA very difficult to research and needless to say the language barrier offers challenges. Would you know if the DA is going to improve the website: providing more information per record. This would help so much Many years ago I started my research on the NHDC which was user friendly and very helpful but is no longer allowing access to any records. Kindest regards, Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 3:40 PM, winter said: I am finding the DA very difficult to research and needless to say the language barrier offers challenges. Would you know if the DA is going to improve the website: providing more information per record. Yes, the records on DA can be at times difficult to research and no i would not expect that they will change much in the near future. It seems that DA has given the task of transcribing the parish records to the group of Ancestry, Family Search and MyHeritage. The parish records are quite complete and if you can mange to use the transcribed records to lead you to the original parish records you should be able to make some progress. So you are faced with using the commercial firms listed above or the English page of Digital Arkivet (DA). Ketil Firing Hanssen has done an excellent job of documenting the family of Niels and Agot as well giving you a hint of you the parents of Agot (Agoth) might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) On 10/18/2023 at 2:09 AM, Ketil Firing Hanssen said: Probably Aagot in the 1801 census (needs to be supported by other sources): 037 Aagaath Andersdatter - 0117 Disen - 003 - Tellingskretsoversikt - Folketelling 1801 for 0218aP Aker prestegjeld - Digitalarkivet I think that this is very likely your Agot in the 1801 Norwegian Census living at Disen with her parents Anders Evensen and Kari Hansdatter, Aagaath is listed as being born about 1778 ie 28 years old. Unfortunately the marriage record also posted by Ketil does not provide the names of the father of the bride and groom so more work needs to be done to prove this conjecture correct. You will find that the spelling of Agot varies somewhat and can also be Agoth or even Aagaath. But the uniqueness of the name helps to limit the candidates. Edited October 26, 2023 by Anton Hagelee Anne-Lise Hansen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Here is the transcribed record for Aagoth Andersdatter born about 1776 at Dilsen, Aker parish, Akershus county. No parents listed however. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/279/pk00000000616080 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) Here is a transcribed record for a Aagoth born about 1777 at Diisen with parents of Anders Evensen and Kari Hansdatter. She was baptized on September 28, 1777. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043699669 And here is the original record for this candidate. She is the fourth record down on the left page. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061106050682 I do not see a birth date only the baptism of Sep 9 1777, Edited October 26, 2023 by Anton Hagelee Anne-Lise Hansen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) I do not know if you have access to Ancestry.com but they do have some records for Aker parish during the 1700's time frame inching this record for the candidate we have been looking at. The transcription from Ancestry places her baptism in Oslo which does not help in your search at all. That only amplifies how hard your search is. You can see that this record is the same as the one we found in the DA record. Even shows the same page number 100 that we found listed in book number 9, Aagoth Andersdatter in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 NameAagoth Andersdatter[Aagoth Evensen] GenderFemale Baptism Date28. sep 1777 (28 Sep 1777) Baptism PlaceOslo, Oslo, Norway FatherAnders Evensen MotherKari Hansdatter FHL Film Number125838 Reference IDB9 P 100 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/7301296:60092?ssrc=pt&tid=20418592&pid=380085484937 This article from Familysearch might help explain how Aker paris is lumped with Oslo in some records https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Aker_Parish,_Oslo,_Norway_Genealogy Edited October 26, 2023 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) On 10/18/2023 at 2:09 AM, Ketil Firing Hanssen said: Nils and Aagot's son Christen's baptism in 1803: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012824036 If you are interested in the history of Niels Nielsen as well as his wife Aagot you might start with Aasen, the place that is listed in the birth record for their first child,. I posted the link above from Ketil, ] Based on the death record posted by Ketil above he was born about 1774. Edited October 26, 2023 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne-Lise Hansen Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 På 25.10.2023 den 22.40, winter skrev: Many years ago I started my research on the NHDC which was user friendly and very helpful but is no longer allowing access to any records. It is still here, but only in Norwegian: https://rhd.uit.no/index.html Search sources: https://rhd.uit.no/kildene.html Search censuses: https://rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/folketellinger.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne-Lise Hansen Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) 1 time siden, Anton Hagelee skrev: Father Anders Evensen Mother Kari Hansdatte The same couple at Diisen baptized a son, Even in 1776: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043697503 ..and a daughter Gunnil in 1771: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043692044 ..a daughter Kari in 1770: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043689695 Edited October 27, 2023 by Anne-Lise Hansen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egil Johannessen Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 @winter To participate in forum discussions, we require that users use their full name. Discussion forum rules, # 1 - “Use your full name as a display name” [LINK] How to register and other useful guides - “In the debate forums you need to use your full name. Alias or just part of your name is not allowed” [LINK] Register a user in the The National Archives discussion forum - “Display name must be your full name” [LINK] Here’s how to set display name to full name - [Changing display name] Espen Tjernshaugen, Ivar Moe, Anfinn Bernaas and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Anne-Lise Hansen said: The same couple at Diisen baptized a son, Even in 1776: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043697503 ..and a daughter Gunnil in 1771: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043692044 ..a daughter Kari in 1770: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043689695 Yes I have found a Family Tree on Ancestry with this family. It has no husband for Aagot but some information on the other siblings https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/72614865/person/210059968425/facts Jean Stockseth Family Tree Your Tree Anders Evensen Anders Evensen BIRTH30 January 1745 Vestre Aker, Akhs, Norway DEATHSINCE 1801 Norway sources (32)records (6) Family Info Father Even Andersen (1701–) Mother Aagot Olsdatter (1710–) Spouse Kari Hansdatter (1736–1801) Married 1766 Children Hans (–) Hans (1766–1866) Christen (1768–1868) Kari (1770–1870) Gunnil (1771–1871) Even (1776–1796) Aagaath (1777–1877) Edited October 27, 2023 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar Moe Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) Everyone is so eager to help that you forget that the forum requires full names. Anton - pull yourself together. You especially need to change your attitude Edited October 27, 2023 by Ivar Moe Ketil Firing Hanssen, Bjørn Andreas Johansønn Løkken and Egil Johannessen 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne-Lise Hansen Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 17 minutter siden, Anton Hagelee skrev: Kari Hansdatter (1736–1801) Married 1766 Engaged April 26, married July 5 1766: Akershus, Oslo fylke, Aker i Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 9 (1765-1785), Trolovede 1766, Viede 1766-1768, Side 121 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061106050703 Anders is a bachelor, Kari (here Karen) is a widow, address Diiseneyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne-Lise Hansen Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) Hans, bapt. Nov. 16 1766: Akershus, Oslo fylke, Aker i Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 9 (1765-1785), Fødte og døpte 1766, Side 10 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061106050591 (Left page) and Christen Nov. 27 1768: Akershus, Oslo fylke, Aker i Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 9 (1765-1785), Fødte og døpte 1768, Side 33 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061106050614 (Left page) Found a ‘skiftekort’ (registercard for probates) concerning this family in 1812, about three years after Anders Evensen died. They’ve got his late wife’s name wrong, though. The fifth child, Aagot, married to Nils Traasterud. Akershus, Oslo fylke, Aker, Skiftekort (1656-1820), Skifteprotokollside, Side 653 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk11216061500653 Edited October 27, 2023 by Anne-Lise Hansen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar Moe Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 26 minutter siden, Ivar Moe skrev: Anton - pull yourself together. You especially need to change your attitude But understandable when 16.7k veteran doesn't care either Egil Johannessen, Bjørn Andreas Johansønn Løkken and Ketil Firing Hanssen 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne-Lise Hansen Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 5 minutter siden, Ivar Moe skrev: But understandable when 16.7k veteran doesn't care either Min indre Frøkentantesofie har blitt svakere med årene, Ivar. ☺️ Dette med brukernavn (display name) pleier å gå seg til etterhvert.. 🙂👍 Egil Johannessen, Bjørn Andreas Johansønn Løkken and Ketil Firing Hanssen 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar Moe Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 6 minutter siden, Anne-Lise Hansen skrev: Min indre Frøkentantesofie har blitt svakere med årene, Ivar. ☺️ Dette med brukernavn (display name) pleier å gå seg til etterhvert.. 🙂👍 Nå skuffer du oss som alltid har sett opp til deg du skjønne 🙂En gang forum sjef, alltid forum sjef Egil Johannessen and Bjørn Andreas Johansønn Løkken 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egil Johannessen Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 6 minutter siden, Anne-Lise Hansen skrev: Dette med brukernavn (display name) pleier å gå seg til etterhvert.. Dessverre, så gjør det ikke det. Jeg har ikke tall på hvor mange jeg har påminnet om å bruke fullt visningsnavn, men det er ikke få. Nå skal vi ikke forstyrre denne tråden noe mer med denne problematikken, men jeg håper at @winter endrer sitt visningsnavn så snart som mulig 😉! Dag T. Hoelseth, Bjørn Andreas Johansønn Løkken and Ivar Moe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketil Firing Hanssen Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) The probate after Anders Evensen and Karie Hansdatter in 1812 confirms that their daugther Aagot was married to Nils Traasterud (the probate starts in the rightmost column): https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20081009610738 Karen (Kari) was buried on Feb 2, 1812 at age 79. According to the probate, Karen died on Jan 27, 1812, and Anders Evensen died three years earlier. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/pg00000002292862 Edited October 27, 2023 by Ketil Firing Hanssen Anne-Lise Hansen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Olsen Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 To: Ivar Moe and Egil Johannessen An insult is similar to pointing a finger, three fingers point back to you. It is the choice of the DA staff monitoring this forum to contact users and inform them on the rules. Individual users have no say in that matter. Continuing to point fingers would be self-insulting and a revelation of your prejudices. Anton Hagalee has and continues to be a great asset to this forum. Thank you, Anton. Jackie K Marler, Ketil Firing Hanssen and Bjørn Erling Hvaara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Stuart Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 18 hours ago, Egil Johannessen said: Dessverre, så gjør det ikke det. Jeg har ikke tall på hvor mange jeg har påminnet om å bruke fullt visningsnavn, men det er ikke få. Nå skal vi ikke forstyrre denne tråden noe mer med denne problematikken, men jeg håper at @winter endrer sitt visningsnavn så snart som mulig 😉! I am sorry, I cannot read the language of Norway so cannot decifer your message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, winter said: 19 hours ago, Egil Johannessen said: I am sorry, I cannot read the language of Norway so cannot decifer your message. You can remedy that fairly easily using Google Translate. Here is what Egil has said but in English. "Unfortunately, it doesn't. I don't have a count of how many people I've reminded to use full display names, but it's not a few. Now we won't disturb this thread any more with this problem, but I hope that @winter changes his display name as soon as possible" Edited October 27, 2023 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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