PLEASE HELP IF POSSIBLE

[Jan Stuart]

Hello, I am a senior, who resides in Canada, and am trying to research an ancestor of mine.  I don't read/write Norweigan so find researching very difficult.  I am hopeing someone can help me.

 

AGOT NIELSEN TROSTERUD (BORN ANDERSDATTER)

Marries Niels Nielsen Trosterud in 1803???

I would like to know:

Agot's full name before marriage

Her parents Names mother/father

When/where she was born

when she was baptised

when she passed away (died)

Siblings

 

I would appreciate any help forum members may offer

Thank you

Jan 

[Ketil Firing Hanssen]

Their marriage in 1803 (May 28th, no. 3 from the bottom on the right page)

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061107010398

 

Probably Aagot in the 1801 census (needs to be supported by other sources):

 

037 Aagaath Andersdatter - 0117 Disen - 003 - Tellingskretsoversikt - Folketelling 1801 for 0218aP Aker prestegjeld - Digitalarkivet

 

Nils and Aagot's son Christen's baptism in 1803:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012824036

 

Nils and Aagot's son Christen's baptism in 1804:

 

Nils Nils - Ministerialbok for Aker prestegjeld 1786-1809 (0218Q) - Digitalarkivet

 

Nils and Aagot's daughter Anne Karine's baptism in 1806:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012826071

 

Nils and Aagot's son Christen's baptism in 1807:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012827088

 

Nils and Aagot's daughter Anne Karine's baptism in 1811:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012818343

Nils and Aagot's son Niels's baptism in 1814:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012822644

 

Nils and Aagot's son Anders's baptism in 1817:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000039100691

Endret Oktober 18, 2023 av Ketil Firing Hanssen
one more child

[Ketil Firing Hanssen]

Niels Nielsen Trosterud died March 7, 1850 in Oslo at age 76. Be aware that the registered age can be inaccurate. He was a butcher and married (i.e. his wife survived him).

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pg00000000404856 

[Jan Stuart]

Hello Ketil

 

Thank you for the record.  I am unable to find any information about Agot (aka Aagaath, Aagat, Aagot, etc.) 

Also, I am unable to find any further information about Niels Nielsen Trosterud,  his parents.

I am finding the DA very difficult to research and needless to say the language barrier offers challenges.

Would you know if the DA is going to improve the website:  providing more information per record.  This would help so much

Many years ago I started my research on the NHDC which was user friendly and very helpful but is no longer allowing access to any records.

 

Kindest regards,

Jan

[Anton Hagelee]

On 10/25/2023 at 3:40 PM, winter said:

I am finding the DA very difficult to research and needless to say the language barrier offers challenges.

Would you know if the DA is going to improve the website:  providing more information per record. 

 

Yes, the records on DA can be at times difficult to research and no i would not expect that they will change much in the near future. It seems that DA has given the task of transcribing the parish records to the group of Ancestry, Family Search and  MyHeritage. The parish records are quite complete and if you can mange to use the transcribed records to lead you to the original parish records you should be able to make some progress. 

 

So you are faced with using the commercial firms listed above or the English page of Digital Arkivet (DA). 

 

Ketil Firing Hanssen has done an excellent job of documenting the family of Niels and Agot as well giving you a hint of you the parents of Agot (Agoth)

might be.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

On 10/18/2023 at 2:09 AM, Ketil Firing Hanssen said:

Probably Aagot in the 1801 census (needs to be supported by other sources):

 

037 Aagaath Andersdatter - 0117 Disen - 003 - Tellingskretsoversikt - Folketelling 1801 for 0218aP Aker prestegjeld - Digitalarkivet

 

I think that this is very likely  your Agot in the 1801 Norwegian Census living at Disen with her parents Anders Evensen and Kari Hansdatter,  Aagaath is listed as being born about 1778 ie 28 years old. Unfortunately the marriage record also posted by Ketil does not provide the names of the father of the bride and groom so more work needs to be done to prove this conjecture correct. 

 

You will find that the spelling of Agot varies somewhat and can also be Agoth or even Aagaath. But the uniqueness of the name helps to limit the candidates. 

 

 

Endret Oktober 26, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is the transcribed record for Aagoth Andersdatter born about 1776 at Dilsen, Aker parish, Akershus county. No parents listed however. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/279/pk00000000616080

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is a  transcribed record for a Aagoth born about 1777 at Diisen with parents of Anders Evensen and Kari Hansdatter.  She was baptized on September 28, 1777. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043699669

 

And here is the original record for this candidate. She is the fourth record down on the left page. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061106050682

 

I do not see a birth date only the baptism of Sep 9 1777,

 

 

 

 

Endret Oktober 26, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

I do not know if you have access to Ancestry.com but they do have some records for Aker parish during the 1700's time frame inching this record for the candidate we have been looking at. The transcription from Ancestry places her baptism in Oslo which does not help in your search at all. That only amplifies how hard your search is. You can see that this record is the same as the one we found in the DA record. Even shows the same page number 100 that we found listed in book number 9, 

 

Aagoth Andersdatter

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameAagoth Andersdatter[Aagoth Evensen]

GenderFemale

Baptism Date28. sep 1777 (28 Sep 1777)

Baptism PlaceOslo, Oslo, Norway

FatherAnders Evensen

MotherKari Hansdatter

FHL Film Number125838

Reference IDB9 P 100

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/7301296:60092?ssrc=pt&tid=20418592&pid=380085484937

 

This article from Familysearch might help explain how Aker paris is lumped with Oslo in some records 

 

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Aker_Parish,_Oslo,_Norway_Genealogy

 

 

Endret Oktober 26, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

On 10/18/2023 at 2:09 AM, Ketil Firing Hanssen said:

Nils and Aagot's son Christen's baptism in 1803:

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/pd00000012824036

 

If you are interested in the history of Niels Nielsen as well as his wife Aagot you might start with Aasen, the place that is listed in the birth record for their first child,. I posted the link above from Ketil, 

 

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Based on the death record posted by Ketil above he was born about 1774. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Oktober 26, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

På 25.10.2023 den 22.40, winter skrev:

Many years ago I started my research on the NHDC which was user friendly and very helpful but is no longer allowing access to any records.

 

 

It is still here, but only in Norwegian:

 

https://rhd.uit.no/index.html

 

Search sources:

https://rhd.uit.no/kildene.html

 

Search censuses:

https://rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/folketellinger.aspx

 

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

1 time siden, Anton Hagelee skrev:

Father Anders Evensen

Mother Kari Hansdatte

 

The same couple at Diisen baptized a son, Even in 1776:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043697503

 

..and a daughter Gunnil in 1771:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043692044

 

..a daughter Kari in 1770:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043689695

 

 

Endret Oktober 27, 2023 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[Egil Johannessen]

@winter

 

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[Anton Hagelee]

39 minutes ago, Anne-Lise Hansen said:

 

The same couple at Diisen baptized a son, Even in 1776:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043697503

 

..and a daughter Gunnil in 1771:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043692044

 

..a daughter Kari in 1770:

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000043689695

 

Yes I have found a Family Tree on Ancestry with this family. It has no husband for Aagot but some information on the other siblings 

 

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/72614865/person/210059968425/facts

 

Jean Stockseth Family Tree

Your Tree

Anders Evensen

Anders Evensen

BIRTH30 January 1745 Vestre Aker, Akhs, Norway

DEATHSINCE 1801 Norway

sources (32)records (6)

Family Info

Father	Even Andersen (1701–)
Mother	Aagot Olsdatter (1710–)
Spouse	Kari Hansdatter (1736–1801) Married 1766
Children	Hans (–) Hans (1766–1866) Christen (1768–1868) Kari (1770–1870) Gunnil (1771–1871) Even (1776–1796) Aagaath (1777–1877)

 

 

Endret Oktober 27, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Ivar Moe]

Everyone is so eager to help that you forget that the forum requires full names. 

 

Anton - pull yourself together. You especially need to change your attitude

Endret Oktober 27, 2023 av Ivar Moe

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

17 minutter siden, Anton Hagelee skrev:

Kari Hansdatter (1736–1801)
Married 1766

 

Engaged April 26, married July 5 1766:

 

Akershus, Oslo fylke, Aker i Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 9 (1765-1785), Trolovede 1766, Viede 1766-1768, Side 121
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061106050703

 

Anders is a bachelor, Kari (here Karen) is a widow, address Diiseneyer.
 

 

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

Hans, bapt. Nov. 16 1766:

 

Akershus, Oslo fylke, Aker i Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 9 (1765-1785), Fødte og døpte 1766, Side 10
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061106050591

(Left page)
 

and Christen Nov. 27 1768:

Akershus, Oslo fylke, Aker i Aker, Ministerialbok nr. 9 (1765-1785), Fødte og døpte 1768, Side 33
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061106050614

(Left page)
 

 

Found a ‘skiftekort’ (registercard for probates) concerning this family in 1812, about three years after Anders Evensen died. They’ve got his late wife’s name wrong, though.

 

The fifth child, Aagot, married to Nils Traasterud.

 

Akershus, Oslo fylke, Aker, Skiftekort (1656-1820), Skifteprotokollside, Side 653
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk11216061500653

 

Endret Oktober 27, 2023 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[Ivar Moe]

26 minutter siden, Ivar Moe skrev:

Anton - pull yourself together. You especially need to change your attitude

 

But understandable when 16.7k veteran doesn't care either

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

5 minutter siden, Ivar Moe skrev:

 

But understandable when 16.7k veteran doesn't care either

 

Min indre Frøkentantesofie har blitt svakere med årene, Ivar. ☺️ Dette med brukernavn (display name) pleier å gå seg til etterhvert.. 🙂👍 

[Ivar Moe]

6 minutter siden, Anne-Lise Hansen skrev:

Min indre Frøkentantesofie har blitt svakere med årene, Ivar. ☺️ Dette med brukernavn (display name) pleier å gå seg til etterhvert.. 🙂👍 

 

Nå skuffer du oss som alltid har sett opp til deg du skjønne 🙂En gang forum sjef, alltid forum sjef

[Egil Johannessen]

6 minutter siden, Anne-Lise Hansen skrev:

Dette med brukernavn (display name) pleier å gå seg til etterhvert..

 

Dessverre, så gjør det ikke det. Jeg har ikke tall på hvor mange jeg har påminnet om å bruke fullt visningsnavn, men det er ikke få. Nå skal vi ikke forstyrre denne tråden noe mer med denne problematikken, men jeg håper at @winter endrer sitt visningsnavn så snart som mulig 😉!

[Ketil Firing Hanssen]

The probate after Anders Evensen and Karie Hansdatter in 1812 confirms that their daugther Aagot was married to Nils Traasterud (the probate starts in the rightmost column):

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20081009610738

 

Karen (Kari) was buried on Feb 2, 1812 at age 79. According to the probate, Karen died on Jan 27, 1812, and Anders Evensen died three years earlier.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/pg00000002292862

Endret Oktober 27, 2023 av Ketil Firing Hanssen

[Richard Olsen]

To: Ivar Moe and Egil Johannessen

 

An insult is similar to pointing a finger, three fingers point back to you.

 

It is the choice of the DA staff monitoring this forum to contact users and inform them on the rules. Individual users have no say in that matter.

 

Continuing to point fingers would be self-insulting and a revelation of your prejudices.

 

Anton Hagalee has and continues to be a great asset to this forum. Thank you, Anton.

[Jan Stuart]

18 hours ago, Egil Johannessen said:

 

Dessverre, så gjør det ikke det. Jeg har ikke tall på hvor mange jeg har påminnet om å bruke fullt visningsnavn, men det er ikke få. Nå skal vi ikke forstyrre denne tråden noe mer med denne problematikken, men jeg håper at @winter endrer sitt visningsnavn så snart som mulig 😉!

I am sorry, I cannot read the language of Norway so cannot decifer your message.

[Anton Hagelee]

57 minutes ago, winter said:

19 hours ago, Egil Johannessen said:

 

I am sorry, I cannot read the language of Norway so cannot decifer your message.

 

You can remedy that fairly easily using Google Translate. Here is what Egil has said but in English. 

 

"Unfortunately, it doesn't. I don't have a count of how many people I've reminded to use full display names, but it's not a few. Now we won't disturb this thread any more with this problem, but I hope that @winter changes his display name as soon as possible"

 

 

 

Endret Oktober 27, 2023 av Anton Hagelee