PLEASE HELP IF POSSIBLE

[Anton Hagelee]

That translation probably does not make much sense as it refers to the discussion above where the Norwegian are beating me up for not forcing you to change your user name of Winter to your full name. 

 

Here is a link to a site that explains how to change your user name. It is in both Norwegian and English.  Try and see if you can change your User Name from Winter to your full name that will rectify things and keep the Norwegians from having a hissy fit. 

 

https://forum.arkivverket.no/announcement/2-ordensregler-for-debattene-discussion-forum-rules/

 

 

Endret Oktober 27, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Jan Stuart]

22 hours ago, Anton Hagelee said:

 

If you are interested in the history of Niels Nielsen as well as his wife Aagot you might start with Aasen, the place that is listed in the birth record for their first child,. I posted the link above from Ketil, 

 

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Based on the death record posted by Ketil above he was born about 1774. 

 

Hello Anton and others who may read my reply,

 

My Lineage is "Trosterud",  My GF was Karl August Trosterud/married Thea Mathilde Hansen.  They immigrated to Canada with my GM Astrid Trosterud and other children.  I understand that Karl August Trosterud's family owned farms but I am unable to find any info about that.

 

Niels Nielsen Trosterud/Aagath gave birth to Anders Nielsen Trosterud, b. Aug 5, 1817 (my lineage) however, I have been found very little about Niels Nielsen Trosterud but some information about Aagath with your/others help.

 

The language barrier is proving difficult and I am finding the DA challenging to say the least.

Anton, can you tell me if "Aker" was a part  of Enebakk?  I printed a map of Akershus and am trying to determine a visual idea of  where places are. 

 

I am also trying to research Kari Hansdatter (mother to Aagath) and her husband Anders Evensen

 

The naming practices were very different in Norway as surnames were not used from what I have read.

I would like to thank you, and everyone for the help.  I truly appreciate the time/effort it takes to research.   I am a senior, and very often look at pics of Norway online.  It seems to be a very beautiful country and I often wonder why my GR/GF left for Canada.

Kindest regards,

Jan Stuart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jan Stuart]

21 hours ago, Anne-Lise Hansen said:

 

It is still here, but only in Norwegian:

 

https://rhd.uit.no/index.html

 

Search sources:

https://rhd.uit.no/kildene.html

 

Search censuses:

https://rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/folketellinger.aspx

 

Hello Anne-Lise,

 

Would you please read the reply I sent to Anton today, Oct 10 as it will give you some information.

 

Kindest regards

Jan Stuart 

[Anton Hagelee]

2 minutes ago, winter said:

Kindest regards

Jan Stuart 

 

Well Jan we now know your full name is Jan Stuart. So if you would please change your user name from Winter to Jan Stuart. That will hopefully satisfy the Norwegians. 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

14 minutes ago, winter said:

Anton, can you tell me if "Aker" was a part  of Enebakk? 

 

No, Enebakk is a separate Parish from Aker. This map from Family Search shows Aker as Vestre Aker and Østre Aker and surrounding Oslo. 

 

 

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Akershus_County,_Norway_Genealogy

Endret Oktober 27, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anne-Lise Hansen]

16 minutter siden, winter skrev:

Hello Anton and others who may read my reply,

 

My Lineage is "Trosterud",  My GF was Karl August Trosterud/married Thea Mathilde Hansen.  They immigrated to Canada with my GM Astrid Trosterud and other children.  I understand that Karl August Trosterud's family owned farms but I am unable to find any info about that.

 

Niels Nielsen Trosterud/Aagath gave birth to Anders Nielsen Trosterud, b. Aug 5, 1817 (my lineage) however, I have been found very little about Niels Nielsen Trosterud but some information about Aagath with your/others help.

 

The language barrier is proving difficult and I am finding the DA challenging to say the least.

Anton, can you tell me if "Aker" was a part  of Enebakk?  I printed a map of Akershus and am trying to determine a visual idea of  where places are. 

 

I am also trying to research Kari Hansdatter (mother to Aagath) and her husband Anders Evensen

 

The naming practices were very different in Norway as surnames were not used from what I have read.

I would like to thank you, and everyone for the help.  I truly appreciate the time/effort it takes to research.   I am a senior, and very often look at pics of Norway online.  It seems to be a very beautiful country and I often wonder why my GR/GF left for Canada.

Kindest regards,

Jan Stuart

 

 

 

«Hello Anton and others who may read my reply,

 

My Lineage is "Trosterud",  My GF was Karl August Trosterud/married Thea Mathilde Hansen.  They immigrated to Canada with my GM Astrid Trosterud and other children.  I understand that Karl August Trosterud's family owned farms but I am unable to find any info about that.

 

Niels Nielsen Trosterud/Aagath gave birth to Anders Nielsen Trosterud, b. Aug 5, 1817 (my lineage) however, I have been found very little about Niels Nielsen Trosterud but some information about Aagath with your/others help.

 

The language barrier is proving difficult and I am finding the DA challenging to say the least.

Anton, can you tell me if "Aker" was a part  of Enebakk?  I printed a map of Akershus and am trying to determine a visual idea of  where places are. 

 

I am also trying to research Kari Hansdatter (mother to Aagath) and her husband Anders Evensen

 

The naming practices were very different in Norway as surnames were not used from what I have read.

I would like to thank you, and everyone for the help.  I truly appreciate the time/effort it takes to research.   I am a senior, and very often look at pics of Norway online.  It seems to be a very beautiful country and I often wonder why my GR/GF left for Canada.

 

Kindest regards,

Jan Stuart»

 

 

With my quote of your entry, I intended to show what you replied. (I was hidden becuse you answered in the grey field where you quoted Anton’s reply.)

Endret Oktober 27, 2023 av Anne-Lise Hansen

[Anton Hagelee]

55 minutes ago, Anne-Lise Hansen said:

It seems to be a very beautiful country and I often wonder why my GR/GF left for Canada.

 

Probably during the time that your ancestors left Norway the people of Norway were significantly poorer than they are now and most Norwegians left for North America to find a better life. 

[Anton Hagelee]

1 hour ago, Anne-Lise Hansen said:

My Lineage is "Trosterud",  My GF was Karl August Trosterud/married Thea Mathilde Hansen.  They immigrated to Canada with my GM Astrid Trosterud and other children.  I understand that Karl August Trosterud's family owned farms but I am unable to find any info about that.

 

Niels Nielsen Trosterud/Aagath gave birth to Anders Nielsen Trosterud, b. Aug 5, 1817 (my lineage) however, I have been found very little about Niels Nielsen Trosterud but some information about Aagath with your/others help.

 

 

Thanks for this information. It sheds some light on the ancestry of your family. 

 

It maybe easiest to trace the family back in time starting with Astrid. Looks like Astrid left Norway in 1907 with her mother Thea Mathilde Karoline Trosterüd and four siblings, 

 

Thea Mathilde Karoline Trosterüd

in the Norway, Emigration Records, 1867-1960

NameThea Mathilde Karoline Trosterüd

GenderKvinnelig

Marital StatusGift (Married)

Emigration Age30

Birth Date7. mar 1877 (7 Mar 1877)

Last Known Residence PlaceSmedgd. 8 II

Emigration Date14. sep 1907 (14 Sep 1907)

Emigration PlaceOslo, Norge

Emigration DestinationCanada

Emigration ShipOslo

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/149751:61757?ssrc=pt&tid=183568324&pid=222401969908

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Here are  the records from the Oslo emigration pages.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000001096889

 

 

Endret Oktober 27, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is Karl and his family in the 1900 Census. They were living at Apt 18, Smedegaden 33, Oslo, Norway.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037045124779

 

I have found that using Ancestry.com and the Norwegian Records on DA can be useful. 

 

Karl Trosterud

in the 1900 Norway Census

NameKarl Trosterud

Gendermann (Male)

Birth Date1874

Birth PlaceKristiania

Street AddressSmedegaden 33 0006, 18

Residence Year1900

Residence PlaceKristiania (Oslo), Oslo, Norge (Norway)

Census PlaceKristiania, Oslo, Norge

Relation to HeadHusfar (Head)

Enumeration District267

Residential StatusBosat

House Number18

Line Number1

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship

Karl Trosterud26Husfar (Head)

Thea Trosterud23hastru (Wife)

Astri Trosterud4Datter (Daughter)

Sigrid Trosterud2Datter (Daughter)

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/522655:60604?ssrc=pt&tid=183568324&pid=222401969907

 

 

 

 

Endret Oktober 27, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Carl August Trosterud

in the 1891 Norway Census

 

The 1891 Census. Here is Carl before he was married. He is living with his parents. 

NameCarl August Trosterud

GenderMann (Male)

Marital StatusUgift (Single)

Relation to HeadSøn (Son)

Birth Date1874

Birth PlaceChria

Residence PlaceKristiania (Oslo), Kristiania, Oslo, Oslo, Norge (Norway)

Counting District Number200

Houselist Number1

Person Number20

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship

Christen Andersen Trosterud44Familiens overhode (Head)

Julie Josephine Trosterud44Hustru (Wife)

Alvilde Christine Trosterud23Datter (Daughter)

Anna Marie Trosterud20Datter (Daughter)

Carl August Trosterud17Søn (Son)

Nils Olaf Trosterud5Søn (Son)

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1932167:60603

 

Norwegian ersion

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052721040594

 

 

 

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Baptism record for Astrid. She was baptized at the Ggønland Church in Oslo.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000015047987

 

Original record is Nr 231

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060323040143

 

 

[Jackie K Marler]

47 minutes ago, Anton Hagelee said:

 

Probably during the time that your ancestors left Norway the people of Norway were significantly poorer than they are now and most Norwegians left for North America to find a better life. 

One explanation I've heard is that you can't eat rocks, however beautiful.

[Anton Hagelee]

Karl August at age one , in the 1875 Census.

 

Karl August Kristensen

in the Norway, Select Census, 1875

NameKarl August KristensenGenderMaleBirth Dateabt 1874Birth PlaceØstre-AkerResidence Date1875Residence PlaceEgerbergsvingen No 6, Akershus, NorwayAge1Clerical DistrictØstre AkerCircuit Number8List Number172bFHL Film Number255600

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship

Kristen Trosterud39Husfader (Head)

Julie Johansen26Kone (Wife)

Alvilde Kristine Kristensen7Datter (Daughter)

Axel Kristensen5Søn (Son)

Anne Marie Kristensen3Datter (Daughter)

Karl August Kristensen1Søn (Son)

Anne Sofie Kristensen0Datter (Daughter)

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/93139:60094

 

Norwegian version, living in Østre Aker, probably in an apartment. His father uses the last name Trosterud.

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052040017420

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Baptism of Thea in Oslo in 1877. Gives you the names of the parents. 

 

Thea Caroline Mathilde Hansen

in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927

NameThea Caroline Mathilde Hansen

GenderFemale

Birth Date7. mar 1877 (7 Mar 1877)

Birth PlaceGronland, Oslo, Oslo, Norway

Baptism Date29. jul 1877 (29 Jul 1877)

FatherCarl Thorvald Hansen

MotherCaroline Martine Hanna Hansen

FHL Film Number1282502

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2898868:60092

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

Marriage of Carl August and Thea in Oslo in 1896.

 

Thea Caroline Mathilde Hansen

in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938

NameThea Caroline Mathilde Hansen

Marriage Age19

Record Typeekteskap (Marriage)

Birth Date1878

Birth PlaceChr

Marriage Date10. mai 1896 (10 May 1896

)Marriage PlaceGrønland, Oslo, Norge (Norway)

Marriage MunicipalityOslo

FatherCarl Thorvald Hansen

SpouseCarl August Christiansen Thorsterid

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/93644210:60606?tid=183568324&pid=222401969908&queryId=f4fddc58c59f427c90b0e2ded554d39b&_phsrc=MYp1&_phstart=successSource

 

Carl August Christiansen Thorsterid

in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938

NameCarl August Christiansen Thorsterid

Marriage Age22

Record Typeekteskap (Marriage)

Birth Date1874

Birth PlaceChr

Marriage Date10. mai 1896 (10 May 1896)

Marriage PlaceGrønland, Oslo, Norge (Norway)

Marriage MunicipalityOslo

Residence PlaceFliasberggd 14

FatherChristian Trouterund

SpouseThea Caroline Mathilde Hansen

 

Norwegian transcribed record 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000004397132

 

Original Norwegian record Nr 70

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060530020148

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Oktober 28, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

So here are some records on the parents of Karl August. Both appear to have stayed in Norway, Oslo to be specific. 

 

Christen Troesterud

in the 1910 Norway Census

NameChristen TroesterudGenderMannlig (Male)Marital StatusGift (Married)Birth Date6. jun 1847 (6 Jun 1847)Birth PlaceKristiania (Oslo)ApartmentEtasje 1 Leilighetsnummer 04Residence PlaceKristiania (Oslo), Oslo, Norge (Norway)Relation to HeadHusfar (Head)Settled or NomadicBCounting DistrictSchweigaardsgate 32Counting District Number0027Enumeration District Number126

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship

Christen Troesterud63Husfar (Head)

Julie Josefine Troesterud63Hustru (Wife)

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/936691:60605

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036392255936

[Anton Hagelee]

Christen Trosterud

in the 1900 Norway Census

NameChristen Trosterud

Gendermann (Male)

Birth Date1847

Birth PlaceKristiania

Street AddressEkebergveien 32 0025, 03

Residence Year1900

Residence PlaceKristiania (Oslo), Oslo, Norge (Norway)

Census PlaceKristiania, Oslo, Norge

Relation to HeadHusfar (Head)

Enumeration District223

Residential StatusBosat

House Number3

Line Number1

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship

Christen Trosterud53Husfar (Head)

Julie Josefine Trosterud53hastru (Wife)

Nils Olaf Trosterud20Søn (Son)

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1234163:60604?ssrc=pt&tid=183568324&pid=222519122394

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037045102974

 

Family in 1891 Census

 

Christen Andersen Trosterud and family living in Oslo

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052721040590

 

The family was living at the same address in 1875 Census  but the location is given as Østre Aker parish not yet a part of Oslo I guess?

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052040017415

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Oktober 28, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Here is the marriage of Christian Andersen Trosterud born art 1847 and Julie Josephine Johannesdatter.

 

Christen Andersen Trosterud

in the Norway Marriages, 1600s-1800s

NameChristen Andersen Trosterud

Age21 years

GenderMale

Birth DateCa.1847

Marriage Date26. des 1868 (26 Dec 1868)

Marriage PlaceOslo, Akershus, Norway

SpouseJulie Josephine Johannesdr

Spouse's Age21 years

Spouse's GenderFemale

Spouse's Birth DateCa.1847

FatherAnders Trosterud

Spouse's FatherJohannes Pedersen

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/184199:1346

 

 

[Anton Hagelee]

This is probably Christen Andersen Trosterud in the 1865 Census. No father is present so he is probably dead by the 1865 Census. The census records lists her as a widow.

 

Christen Andersen Trosterud

in the 1865 Norway Census

NameChristen Andersen Trosterud

GenderMannlig (Male)

Marital StatusUgift (Single)

Age18

Birth Yearabt 1847

Birth PlaceOslo

Census year1865

MunicipalityKristiania

Municipality Number0301

CountyOslo

County Number03

Counting DistrictAakebergsveien

Counting District Number1801

Enumeration DistrictGrønlands Menighed

Enumeration District Number000

Relation to HeadSøn (Son)

House List Number20

House Number04

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship

Kirstine Gabrielsdatter Trosterud45

Christen Andersen Trosterud18Søn (Son)

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/238540:61753

 

Norwegian 1865 Census 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038027044733

 

 

 

 

 

Endret Oktober 28, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

The parents Christen Andersen Trosterud are Anders Nielsen Trosterud and Berthe Kristine Gabrielsdtter. Here is the marriage record for Anders and Berthe in 1839. The transcription is incorrect, the last name is Trosterud. The bridegrooms father is Niels Nielsen Trosterud. 

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000009915764

 

The original record is Nr. 6

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061109010586

 

 

 

 

Endret Oktober 28, 2023 av Anton Hagelee

[Anton Hagelee]

Well you do have a long and somewhat complicated family line back to Niels Nielsen Trosterud and Aagot Andersdatter. I finally put together a brief Family Line so I could follow it. It is rough but hopefully accurate. It does not take us past Niels Nielsen Trosterud and that step may be difficult. Here is the family line but it may still need some work. You may or may not be aware of Christen Andersen Trosterud kind of stuck in the middle of the line. 

 

Astrid parents are

 

Karl August Trosterud 1874 married Thea Mathilde Hansen

 

Parents of Karl August are Christen Andersen Trosterud 1847 married Julie Josephine Johannesdatter

 

Parents of Christen Andersen Trosterud are Anders Nielsen Trosterud  1818 and Berthe Kristine Gabrielsdatter

 

Parents of Anders Nielsen Trosterud are Niels Nielsen Trosterud and Aagot Andersdatter.

 

 

[Jan Stuart]

19 minutes ago, Anton Hagelee said:

Well you do have a long and somewhat complicated family line back to Niels Nielsen Trosterud and Aagot Andersdatter. I finally put together a brief Family Line so I could follow it. It is rough but hopefully accurate. It does not take us past Niels Nielsen Trosterud and that step may be difficult. Here is the family line but it may still need some work. You may or may not be aware of Christen Andersen Trosterud kind of stuck in the middle of the line. 

 

Astrid parents are

 

Karl August Trosterud 1874 married Thea Mathilde Hansen

 

Parents of Karl August are Christen Andersen Trosterud 1847 married Julie Josephine Johannesdatter

 

Parents of Christen Andersen Trosterud are Anders Nielsen Trosterud  1818 and Berthe Kristine Gabrielsdatter

 

Parents of Anders Nielsen Trosterud are Niels Nielsen Trosterud and Aagot Andersdatter.

 

 

Anton,you are correct with the line and it certainly seems complicated.

 

Unable to find any info about Niels Nielsen (aka Nils) Trosterud, except born abt 1774

Aagot Andersdatter parents are Anders Evensen b. 1745, mother is Keri Hansdatter, b. 1736, d. 1812 in Akershus, Aker, Oslo. I don't know if info is accurate and cannot find any info about Anders Evensen/Keri Hansdatter

 

On one church record or census I found children of Anders/Keri listed as Aagaath, b 1778, Hermana, b 1774 and Jorgen Evensen, b 1800 but am unsure if accurate

Unsure if they had any more children
A

[Jan Stuart]

Just now, winter said:

Anton,you are correct with the line and it certainly seems complicated.

 

Unable to find any info about Niels Nielsen (aka Nils) Trosterud, except born abt 1774

Aagot Andersdatter parents are Anders Evensen b. 1745, mother is Keri Hansdatter, b. 1736, d. 1812 in Akershus, Aker, Oslo. I don't know if info is accurate and cannot find any info about Anders Evensen/Keri Hansdatter

 

On one church record or census I found children of Anders/Keri listed as Aagaath, b 1778, Hermana, b 1774 and Jorgen Evensen, b 1800 but am unsure if accurate

Unsure if they had any more children
A

Anton, I do have all the information you collected with respect to my Grt GM Thea Mathilde/Karl August Trosterud.  Astrid, my Grandmother, their daughter, married later in life and resided in Ontario, Canada with my Grandfather.  My father was their son, however, he passed away when I was a child so it has been very important to me to find his lineage in Norway.

 

[Jan Stuart]

4 hours ago, Anton Hagelee said:

 

 

Thanks for this information. It sheds some light on the ancestry of your family. 

 

It maybe easiest to trace the family back in time starting with Astrid. Looks like Astrid left Norway in 1907 with her mother Thea Mathilde Karoline Trosterüd and four siblings, 

 

Thea Mathilde Karoline Trosterüd

in the Norway, Emigration Records, 1867-1960

NameThea Mathilde Karoline Trosterüd

GenderKvinnelig

Marital StatusGift (Married)

Emigration Age30

Birth Date7. mar 1877 (7 Mar 1877)

Last Known Residence PlaceSmedgd. 8 II

Emigration Date14. sep 1907 (14 Sep 1907)

Emigration PlaceOslo, Norge

Emigration DestinationCanada

Emigration ShipOslo

 

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/149751:61757?ssrc=pt&tid=183568324&pid=222401969908

 

These are the Immigration records for Thea with her children.  My Grandmother was Astrid.  How very brave to travel by ship to a new land with her children.

Anton,  what were the conditions like in Norway during this time?  Did people immigrate due to difficult times in Norway?  It seems that many people left Norway for the USA and Canada.

Jan Stuart