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Gisle Hersvik

Eg viser til denne debatten; https://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/233036-sf-johannes-h-asheim-1863-1932-sine-etterkommere og oppsummering i #26 der.

 

To av barna til Johannes H Asheim er ikkje kartlagt ennå;
7.Sjur J. Asheim, adr ukjent                               [f. 15 Dec 1892, d. ???---> Mangler: Evt kone, barn, bustad, dødsdato.

8.Johan J. Asheim, adr ukjent                           [f. 3 Aug 1893, d. ???---> Mangler: Evt kone, barn, bustad, dødsdato.

 

Eg kan ikkje sjå at Bygdeboka for Brekke, gnr. 50 Asheim, gir noko svar om kvar dei tok vegen.

 

 

Egil J. fann ut at Sjur reiste til USA i 1912:

The New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name:    Sjur J Asheim
Arrival Date:    8 Apr 1912
Birth Date:    abt 1892
Birth Location:    Nrw
Birth Location Other:    brokke sogn [Brekke Sogn]
Age:    20
Gender:    Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality:    Scandinavian
Port of Departure:    Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival:    New York, New York
Ship Name:    Caronia

 

Utreisen - 

 

 

 

Egil J. fann også ut av Johan reiste til USA i 1913:

 

The New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name:    Johan J Ashum
Arrival Date:    24 Mar 1913
Birth Date:    abt 1894
Birth Location:    Norway
Birth Location Other:    sojn [Sogn]
Age:    19
Gender:    Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality:    Scandinavian
Port of Departure:    Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival:    New York, New York
Ship Name:    Carmania

 

Reisemål: Til broren Sjur i Wisconsin.

 

Utreisen - https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000731971

 

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Egil Johannessen
1 time siden, Sven Hjortland skrev:

Johan Asheim som reiser tilbake til Amerika/Canada i 1924?

 

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000751891

 

Ankomsten hans i Canada - Lenke Ancestry

 

The Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
Name:    John Johnsen
Gender:    Male
Estimated birth year:    abt 1894
Birth Place:    Brekke, Sogn
Age:    30
Date of Arrival:    13 Apr 1924
Port of Arrival:    Saint John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure:    Bergen, Norway
Ship Name:    Montlaurier

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Egil Johannessen
2 timer siden, Lars Waaltorp skrev:

Kan dette være Sjur som har tatt navnet Sivert Johnson Asheim? Bosatt i Minnesota, på besøk i Norge i 1921:  https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/8/pe00000000745698

 

Ankomst - Lenke Ancestry

The New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name:    Sever Johnson
Arrival Date:    29 Jun 1921
Birth Date:    abt 1892
Age:    29
Gender:    Male
Port of Departure:    Bergen
Port of Arrival:    New York, New York
Ship Name:    Stavangerfjord

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Oppgitt f. dato 15. februar 1892 - han var f. 15. februar (se lenke til dåp i post nr. 16).

 

The U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925 - Lenke Ancestry
Name:    Sever Johnson
Age:    28
Birth Date:    15 Feb 1892
Birth Place:    Asheim, Norway
Residence Place:    St Paul, Minnesota
Passport Issue Date:    22 Oct 1920
Father:    Johannes Johnson
Has Photo:    Yes

Sever Johnson.jpg

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FT 1920 bor hos søsteren og hennes familie

 

The 1920 United States Federal Census - Lenke Ancestry
Name:    Sevar Johnson 
[Severo Johnson ] 
Age:    27
Birth Year:    abt 1893
Birthplace:    Norway
Home in 1920:    St Paul Ward 1, Ramsey, Minnesota
Street:    Bedford Street
Residence Date:    1920
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Immigration Year:    1912
Relation to Head of House:    Roomer
Marital status:    Single
Father's Birthplace:    Norway
Mother's Birthplace:    Norway
Native Tongue:    Norwegian
Able to Speak English:    Yes
Occupation:    Painter
Industry:    Railway Co
Employment Field:    Wage or Salary
Naturalization Status:    Naturalized
Able to Read:    Yes
Able to Write:    Yes
Household Members:    
Adolph Finsness    34
Inga Finsness    24
Christen Finsness    2
John Ivan Finsness    1
Sevar Johnson    27

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The U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current - Lenke Ancestry
Name:    Sever Johnson
Birth Date:    15 Feb 1892
Birth Place:    Asheim, Osterøy kommune, Hordaland fylke, Norway - Feilkobling?
Death Date:    7 Apr 1950
Death Place:    Maryland, United States of America
Cemetery:    Arlington National Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:    Arlington, Arlington County, Virginia, United States of America
Has Bio?:    Y
Spouse:    Charlotte Johnson
Children:    Hans J. Johnson

 

Lenke FAG - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49239007

 

The U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 - Lenke Ancestry
Name:    Sever Johnson
Gender:    Male
Residence Age:    50
Birth Date:    15 Feb 1892
Birth Place:    Bergen, Norway
Residence Date:    1942
Residence Place:    Prince George''s, Maryland, USA

 

The U.S. Veterans' Gravesites, ca.1775-2006 - Lenke Ancestry
Name:    Sever Johnson
Service Info.:    PFC CO I 23 INF 2ND DIV USA, WWI
Birth Date:    15 Feb 1892
Death Date:    7 Apr 1950
Interment Date:    11 Apr 1950
Cemetery:    Arlington National Cemetery
Cemetery Address:    C/O Director Arlington, VA 22211
Buried At:    Section 12 Site 1940

 

The District of Columbia, Marriage Records, 1810-1953 - Lenke Ancestry
Name:    Sever Johnson
Gender:    Male
Age:    41
Birth Date:    abt 1892
Marriage Date:    14 Feb 1933
Marriage Place:    District of Columbia, USA
Spouse:    Charlotte Fannah
Film Number:    002399062

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Reiste på besøk til broren John Johnson i 1927

 

The Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935 - Lenke Ancestry
Name:    Sever Johnson
Age:    35
Estimated birth year:    abt 1892
Arrival Port:    Emerson, Manitoba
Date of Arrival:    15 Sep 1927
Birth Location:    burgan, Norway
Gender:    Male
Citizenship:    American

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The U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 - Lenke Ancestry
Name:    Sever Johnson
Gender:    Male
Residence Year:    1935
Street address:    31l3 13th NW
Residence Place:    Washington, District of Columbia, USA
Occupation:    Painter
Spouse:    Charlotte Johnson
Publication Title:    Washington, District of Columbia, City Directory, 1935

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The 1940 United States Federal Census - Lenke Ancestry
Name:    Sever Johnson
Age:    47
Estimated birth year:    abt 1893
Gender:    Male
Race:    White
Birthplace:    Norway
Marital status:    Married
Relation to Head of House:    Head
Home in 1940:    Seat Pleasant, Prince George's, Maryland
Map of Home in 1940:    View Map
House Number:    43
Farm:    No
Inferred Residence in 1935:    Washington, District of Columbia
Residence in 1935:    Washington, District of Columbia
Resident on farm in 1935:    No
Citizenship:    Naturalized
Sheet Number:    61A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation:    102
Occupation:    Painter
House Owned or Rented:    Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented:    28
Attended School or College:    No
Highest Grade Completed:    Elementary school, 7th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census:    44
Class of Worker:    Wage or salary worker in Government work
Weeks Worked in 1939:    52
Income:    1680
Income Other Sources:    Yes
Household Members:    
Sever Johnson    47
Charlotte Johnson    41
Charles Johnson    6
Hans Johnson    5
Edward Johnson    4
Elizabeth Schlorb    7
George Schlorb    76
Madeline Thorne    43

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? (Underskriften ligner underskr. i pass søknaden)

 

The U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 - Lenke Ancestry
Name:    Sever Johnson
Marital status:    Single
Birth Date:    15 Feb 1892
Birth Place:    Norway
Residence Place:    Hill, Montana, USA

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The 1930 United States Federal Census - Lenke Ancestry
Name:    Sever Johnson
Birth Year:    abt 1892
Gender:    Male
Race:    White
Birthplace:    Norway
Marital status:    Single
Relation to Head of House:    Lodger
Home in 1930:    Norfolk, Norfolk (Independent City), Virginia, USA
Map of Home:    View Map
Street address:    Colonial Avenue
Ward of City:    Precinct 15
Block:    645
House Number:    508
Dwelling Number:    53
Family Number:    77
Attended School:    No
Able to Read and Write:    Yes
Father's Birthplace:    Norway
Mother's Birthplace:    Norway
Language Spoken:    Norwegian
Immigration Year:    1912
Naturalization:    Naturalized
Able to Speak English:    Yes
Occupation:    Painter
Industry:    house
Class of Worker:    Wage or salary worker
Employment:    Yes
Veteran:    Yes
War:    WW
Household Members:    
Oris M Hanks    29
Sever Johnson    38
William Prack    50
Gilbert Shapiro    6

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Da Sjur (Sever) besøkte broren i 1927 så har jeg problemer med å tyde hvilket sted broren bodde - men det var i allefall i Sask (Saskatchewan)

1927_Visit Brother JJ.jpg

 

? - https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1926/Pages/item.aspx?itemid=1349004
Surname: Johnson

Given Name: John

Gender: Male

Age: 32

Marital Status: Single

Ethnic Origin: Norwegian

Year of Immigration: 1924

Province: Saskatchewan

District Name: Saskatoon

District Number: 33

Sub-District Number: 12

Sub-District Description: Townships 35 and 36 in ranges 5 and 6, west of the third meridian, west of the South Saskatchewan R... show more
Family Number: 30

Page Number: 4

Line Number: 37

Reference: RG31, Statistics Canada

Item Number: 1349004

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5 timer siden, Gisle Hersvik skrev:

7.Sjur J. Asheim, adr ukjent                               [f. 15 Dec 1892,

 

Faktisk f. 15. februar 1892 - Nr 1 - Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Brekke i Gulen (Eivindvik), Ministerialbok nr. C  2 (1882-1914), Fødte og døpte 1892, Side 31, Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050728021083

 

Nr 1 i Kl. Bok - Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Brekke i Gulen (Eivindvik), Klokkerbok nr. C 2 (1880-1938), Fødte og døpte 1892, Side 24, Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050818010273

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Gisle Hersvik

Mange takk til Lars, Sven og Egil for fantastisk arbeid.

 

Eg må nok studere dette litt meir og prøve å etterfølge info via egen Ancestry-konto.

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Lars Waaltorp
7 timer siden, Egil Johannessen skrev:

Da Sjur (Sever) besøkte broren i 1927 så har jeg problemer med å tyde hvilket sted broren bodde - men det var i allefall i Sask (Saskatchewan)

1927_Visit Brother JJ.jpg

 

Jeg tror det står Paddockwood.

 

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Gisle Hersvik

Ser at det finnes 2 oppføringer for Charles Johnson på FaG:

- 125803234, denne er linka saman med Sever Johnson

- 132211063, mens denne også gir fødselsdato og dermed finn vi denne (her er det oppgitt av han er «divorced»):

 

E9634A12-1B71-41E2-932C-5A5093C4855A.jpeg

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Kort oppsummering:

 

7.Sjur J. Asheim, adr ukjent                               [f. 15 Feb 1892, d. 7 Apr 1950]

- i 1920 hos søstera Inga i Ramsey, MN

- i 1930 i Norfolk, VA

- i 1935 i Washington, DC

- i 1940 i Prince George's, MD

- i 1950 i MD, gravlagt VA.

- gift med Charlotte Fennah, 4 barn (ein lever fremdeles)

—- Charles, g og har 3 barn.

—- Hans, g og har ikkje barn.

—- Edward, g og har muligens barn.

—- Richard, g og har muligens barn.

 

8.Johan J. Asheim, adr ukjent                           [f. 3 Aug 1893, d. ???]  ---> Mangler: Evt kone, barn, bustad, dødsdato.

- aka John Johnson, truleg busatt i Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. Sever var på besøk i 1927.

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