Lars E. Øyane Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Martha Eriksdotter Hagenes frå Luster budde lenge i Albert Lea, MN, men vart sidan gift med svensken Alfred Swanson, og dei dreiv hønsefarm i North St. Paul, MN. Kven var Alfred, og kva tid/kvar vart dei gifte? Her følgjer eit oppdatert manuskript for dette parfolket: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Martha Eriksdotter {Hagenes}, f. {i Luster} 3.4.1863, Martha Erickson utvandra til Amerika i lag med mor si i 1883 og budde ei tid i Freeborn Co., Minn. Sidan flytte ho til North St. Paul, Minn., og ho gifte seg ##### (date and place of her marriage? - about 1915!) med ##### (husband’s Swedish named and origin?) i Amerika kjend som Alfred Swanson. Han var son av ##### (full names of parents, occupation, origins?) og f. ##### (place of his birth? – where in Sweden? – check birth date?) 15.10.1864, men utvandra til Amerika i ##### (year of his emigration? – 1930 census suggests 1868!) Alfred og Martha var hønsefarmarar («chicken farmers»), men Alfred var òg vaktmeister ved ein skule («school janitor»). Dei budde i New Canada township, Ramsey Co., Minn. der Martha d. 3.2.1936. Alfred Swanson d. same staden 23.4.1942. Dei var barnlause. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eg takkar so mykje på førehand for alle gode tips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kari Aabelvik Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Hei. Ved søk i navnindexerte fødsler fra 1859, på Alfred f. 15/10 1864,får jeg ett treff. Alfred f. 15/10 1864 i Grava,Värmland, foreldre Magnus Svensson og Kajsa Magnusdtr. Denne Alfred utvandret til Nordamerika 28/3 1887. Men,han står i Emibas som Magnusson. Kan Svansson være Svensson i Sverige,og at han der brukte opprinnelig Svensson? En kandidat som bør undersøkes nærmere? Her fra Emibas: Post 782982 Magnusson, Alfred Inhyse (ogift man) f. 15/10 1864 i Grava, Värmlands län (Värmland) Utvandrad 28/3 1887 från Rud, Grava, Värmlands län (Värmland) till Nordamerika 0101887040 - Bilaga/ytterligare information finns. Kontakta Emigrantregistret i Karlstad Källa: Husförhörslängd, s. 203 Hilsen Kari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kari Aabelvik Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Ekteskapsinngåelse 1915 ,fra Ancestry. Ser i kirkeboka,der er de nr. 18 i 1916. Hilsen Kari Edited July 13, 2020 by Kari Aabelvik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kari Aabelvik Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Denne Alfred var nok et blindskudd. Han returnerte til Sverige i 1892,og døde der i 1942. Hilsen Kari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Alfred og Martha i 1930 FT https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X38R-7CC Immigration Year: 1868 Naturalization: Naturalized Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Chicken-raising Minnesota Deaths and Burials, 1835-1990 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FD71-TLG Edited July 14, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kari Aabelvik Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 På gravstenen står han født 1862. Kari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Her er Alfred og Martha i 1920. Alfred født i Minnesota i 1874? Address 288 Old White Bear Road, New Canada Township. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MW14-5 Edited July 14, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 En langskutt kandidat. Familien har en Albert født i 1869 i Minnesota. Funnet i mange kilder. Må sjekkes. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M93V-SLZ 1910 FT https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2PH-HFK 1880 FT https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ9K-6Y1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars E. Øyane Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Innlegg #9: Hjarteleg takk til Kari og Anton for mange spennande og interessante innlegg! Det er tydeleg ikkje so enkelt å identifisera denne Alfred Swanson. Eg ser vel ikkje nokon «kandidat» som «jump out at me». FT1920 seier Alfred var fødd i Minnesota, so då er heller ikkje fødestaden eintydig... Eg har leitt etter Alfred i FT1940, men finn han ikkje der, i alle fall ikkje i Ramsey Co., MN. Som Kari seier, gravstøtta hans seier han var fødd i 1862: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/172440707/alfred-swanson Støtta hennar Martha har 1863, som stemmer godt! Fødselsdatoen 15.10.1864 er eg ganske sikker på kjem frå dødsattesten i Ramsey Co., MN som eg studerte då eg vitja State Office of Vital Records i 1982, men kanskje årstalet er feil? Finst det nokon Alfred Swanson fødd i Sverige t.d. 15.10.1862?? Ein ny kjempetakk for framifrå bistand i freistnadane på å komplettera denne biografien! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Johannessen Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Alfred i 1940 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9MT-WJ3N?i=3&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKSKD-PZJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lars E. Øyane Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Innlegg #12: Hjarteleg takk til Lars J. for eit nytt spennande innlegg! Der har me han i FT1940 med skrivemåten Alford. MEN, ogso her påstår han vera fødd i Minnesota. Me kan vel konkludera med at anten var Alfred fødd kort etter foreldri utvandra eller han utvandra som ganske liten, jmf. oppgjeve utvandringsår i FT1920! Tja, den som visste... Kanskje ein liktale (obituary) kan finnast ein eller annan stad? Kanskje hadde han søsken...? Eg har slite før med tidlege emigrantar frå Sverige som budde i Twin Cities - dei var «flinke» til å vri på namni sine... Ein ny kjempetakk for framifrå freistnadar på å løysa denne floka! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars E. Øyane Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Innlegg #13: So har eg motteke ein kopi av dødsattesten til Alfred Swanson, og ei interessant sak er informanten William Swanson. Han må vel vera ein slektning, kan henda ein brorson eller bror? Men kvar budde han? Ein ny kjempetakk for alle gode tips! Edited July 14, 2020 by Lars E. Øyane Anton Hagelee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Johannessen Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 time siden, Lars E. Øyane skrev: So har eg motteke ein kopi av dødsattesten til Alfred Swanson, og ei interessant sak er informanten William Swanson. Han må vel vera ein slektning, kan henda ein brorson eller bror? Men kvar budde han? Den oppgitte adressen finnes både i St. Paul, Minnesota og i Los Angeles, California (jeg syns det står Cal. bak navnet?) Et skudd i blinde kanskje, men i 1940 bor en Wm K Swanson ,29 år, i California, men denne hadde i 1935 bodd i St. Paul, Ramsey https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9MT-X4ZK?i=2&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AK96G-P58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) William Kenneth Swanson in the Minnesota, Births and Christenings Index, 1840-1980 Name:William Kenneth Swanson Gender:Male Birth Date:2 Aug 1910 Birth Place:St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota Father:William Swanson Mother:Mathilda Anderson FHL Film Number:1309045 William Kenneth Swanson in the U.S. WWII Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947 Name:William Kenneth SwansonGender:MaleRace:WhiteAge:30Relationship to Draftee:Self (Head)Birth Date:2 Aug 1910Birth Place:St Paul, Minnesota, USAResidence Place:Ventura, Ventura, California, USARegistration Date:16 Oct 1940Registration Place:Ventura, Ventura, California, USAEmployer:Mission Baking CoWeight:150Complexion:LightEye Color:BlueHair Color:RedHeight:5 8Next of Kin:Marie A SwansonHousehold Members: NameRelationship William Kenneth SwansonSelf (Head) Marie A SwansonWife Sannsynligvis ikke den rette mannen. Edited July 15, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) William Swanson, adresse er 1011 Fuller Avenue, St. Paul i Minnesota Death Certificate fra Lars og i 1940 FT under. William Swanson in the 1940 United States Federal Census Name:William Swanson Age:66 Estimated birth year:abt 1874 Gender:Male Race:White Birthplace:Minnesota Marital status:Married Relation to Head of House:Head Home in 1940:St Paul, Ramsey , Minnesota Map of Home in 1940:View Map Street:Fuller Avenue House Number:1011 Farm:No Inferred Residence in 1935:St Paul, Ramsey , Minnesota Residence in 1935:Same Place Sheet Number:3B Number of Household in Order of Visitation:61 Occupation:Grocer Industry:Hathouse Porist House Owned or Rented:Rented Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented:35 Attended School or College:No Highest Grade Completed:Elementary school, 5th grade Hours Worked Week Prior to Census:48 Class of Worker:Wage or salary worker in private work Weeks Worked in 1939:51 Income:860 Income Other Sources:No Neighbors:View others on page Household Members: NameAge William Swanson66 Margaret Swanson54 Violet Swanson22 Frank Swanson22 Lorraine F Swanson19 Delores Swanson17 Edited July 15, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Sannsynligvis den samme mannen. William Swanson in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name:William Swanson Race:White Birth Date:13 Jan 1873 Street address:2315 W 7th St Residence Place:St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota, USA Relative:Margarete Swanson Edited July 15, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Her er William Swanson født 19. januar 1873. Litt utenfor WWI-kilden. Med sønn Carl William i kilde fra Rice County, Minnesota. William Swanson in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Swedish American Church Records, 1800-1947 Name:William Swanson Gender:Male Event Type:Member List Birth Date:19 Jan 1873 Birth Place:Christdala,Rice E., Minnesota Relation to Head:Head Church:First Lutheran Church Child:Carl William Swanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Her er William Swanson i 1875 Minnesota State Census i Rice County, Minnesota. Far er Carl Swanson og mor er Helen Swanson. William Swanson in the Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905 Name:William Swanson Age:1 Census Date:1 May 1875 County:Rice Locality:Forest Birth Location:Minnesota Gender:Male Estimated birth year:abt 1874 Race:White Father's Birth Location:Sweden Mother's Birth Location:Sweden Line:20 Roll:MNSC_14 William har en bror, Alfred født 1863 i Sverige. Alfred Swanson in the Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905 Name:Alfred Swanson Age:12 Census Date:1 May 1875 County:Rice Locality:Forest Birth Location:Sweden Gender:Male Estimated birth year:abt 1863 Race:White Father's Birth Location:Sweden Mother's Birth Location:Sweden Line:17 Roll:MNSC_14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kari Aabelvik Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Disse fra forrige innlegg??? Hilsen Kari Anton Hagelee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Alfred Swanson født Sweden bodde i Rice County. 1875 FT https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKNT-XCY 1895 FT https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ6G-LQQ 1900 FT https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M93L-5JC 1905 FT https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SPQL-K6Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) Sven Alfrid Svensson in the Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1859-1947 Name:Sven Alfrid [Sven Alfrid Svensson] [Sven Alfrid Karlsson] Gender:Man (Male) Birth Date:8 nov 1862 Birth Place:Tving, Blekinge, Sverige (Sweden) Father:Karl Svensson Mother:Elina Olasdotter Volume:81 https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?ti=0&indiv=try&db=swedenparishbirths&h=41678591 Ida Mathilda Svensson in the Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1859-1947 Name:Ida Mathilda [Ida Mathilda Svensson] [Ida Mathilda Karlsdotter] Gender:Kvinna (Female) Birth Date:5 jul 1865 Birth Place:Tving , Blekinge, Sverige (Sweden) Father:Karl Svensson Mother:Elin Olosdotter Volume:183 https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=2262&h=342105422&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=2262 Edited July 15, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) Ellen Swanson in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name:Ellen Swanson Birth Date:29 Aug 1839 Death Date:11 Sep 1904 Cemetery:Christdala Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place:Rice County, Minnesota, United States of America Has Bio?:Y Spouse:Charles Swanson Ellen Olafson in the Minnesota Cemetery Inscription Index, Select Counties Name:Ellen Olafson Birth Date:29 Aug 1839 Death Date:11 Sep 1904 Comments:SEE SWANSON Section:64 Edited July 15, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, Kari Aabelvik said: Disse fra forrige innlegg??? Hilsen Kari Kanskje denne Elin Olsson in the Sweden, Select Baptisms, 1611-1920 Name:Elin Olsson Gender:Female Birth Date:21 aug 1839 Baptism Date:25 aug 1839 Baptism Place:Fridlevstad,Blekinge,Sweden Father:Oluf Jaensson Mother:Maria Monsdr FHL Film Number:198277 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Kari Aabelvik said: Disse fra forrige innlegg??? Hilsen Kari Må sjekkes. Fødselsdag litt feil. Carl Swensson in the Sweden, Select Baptisms, 1611-1920 Name:Carl Swensson Gender:Male Birth Date:30 jul 1836 Birth Place:Tving, Blekinge, Sweden Baptism Date:31 jul 1836 Mother's Age:25 - 30 Father:Swen Gumesson Mother:Kerstin Carlsdotter FHL Film Number:129545 Reference ID:Kyrkobok Kerstin Carlsdotter in the Sweden, Select Marriages, 1630-1920 Name:Kerstin Carlsdotter Gender:Female Age:27 Birth Date:1807 Marriage Date:18 apr 1834 Marriage Place:Tving, Blekinge, Sweden Spouse:Swen Gummesson FHL Film Number:129545 Reference ID:#8 Edited July 15, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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