Lars E. Øyane Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) Dette er ein person som eg har vore på leiting etter i minst 35 år, og som eg so langt ikkje har greidd å finna det norske opphavet til! Kan nokon please hjelpa meg? Bertha O(thelia?) Andersdotter, i Amerika kjend som Tilla Anderson, oppgjevi fødd i Noreg 18.7.1865 som dotter av Anders og Ragnhild Ness, utvandra til Amerika i ung alder og gifte seg i Vernon Co., WI 6.2.1882 med Thomas Torgerson (1862-1892) med foreldre frå Luster i Sogn. Ho døydde i Sweet Home, OR 6.7.1930. Er det mogeleg å finna ut: * Det fulle norske namnet hennar? * Nøyaktig stad (og dato) for fødsli hennar? * Utvandringsåret hennar? * Fulle namn på foreldri hennar med yrke og opphav? Eg takkar so mykje på førehand for alle gode tips! Edited November 21, 2020 by Lars E. Øyane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Er dette den samme personen? For ordens skyld: Tilla A Miller in the Oregon, U.S., Death Index, 1898-2008 Name:Tilla A Miller Death Date:6 Jul 1930 Death Place:Linn Certificate:171 https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=5254&h=151680&tid=&pid=&queryId=1ea13c310b72b62b4e4c2a1818b8a6e7&usePUB=true&_phsrc=MRr35&_phstart=successSource Edited November 22, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Tilla A. Miller in the U.S., Obituary Collection, 1930-Current Name:Tilla A. Miller Death Age:64 Birth Date:14 Jul 1865 Death Date:6 Jul 1930 Tilla A. Miller in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name:Tilla A. Miller Birth Date:14 Jul 1865 Death Date:6 Jul 1930 Cemetery:Zoar Lutheran Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place:Aurora, Clackamas County, Oregon, United States of America Has Bio?:N Spouse:John C Miller Edited November 22, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Andre ekteskap? T Torgeson in the Washington, U.S., Marriage Records, 1854-2013 Name:T Torgeson Maiden Name:Anderson Gender:Female Marriage Age:32 Birth Date:abt 1865 Birth Place:Norway Marriage Date:7 Oct 1897 Marriage Place:Vancouver, Clarke, Washington, USA Father:T Anderson Spouse:J C Miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Claude Torgeson in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 Name:Claude Torgeson Gender:Male Race:White Birth Date:1 Aug 1892 Birth Place:Vancouver Cl, Washington Father:Thomas H Torgeson Mother:Tilla A Anderson SSN:700102761 Notes:Feb 1937: Name listed as CLAUDE TORGESON Har du noen kilde til henne i Wisconsin? Edited November 22, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne Tonby Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Tilla A Miller død 6/7 1930 skal være denne Tilla Anette født 14/7 1865 døpt 15/10 1865 Bragernes SAKO, Bragernes kirkebøker, F/Fb/L0003: Ministerialbok nr. II 3, 1860-1868, s. 235 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051125020240 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F8W4-9FK ft 1865 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01038099000582 Familien i census 1870 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDHH-54Z Sven Hjortland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/161071789/person/292104073072/story When Tilla A. Anderson was born on July 14, 1865, in Norway, her father, Thorsten, was 30, and her mother, Anne, was 33. She had one son with Thomas Hendrickson (Henry) TORGERSON in 1892. She died on July 6, 1930, in Canby, Oregon, at the age of 64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Anne Tonby said: Familien i census 1870 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDHH-54Z Tilla Andeson in the 1880 United States Federal Census Name:Tilla Andeson [Tilla Anderson] Age:14 Birth Date:Abt 1866 Birthplace:Norway Home in 1880:Saint Olaf, Otter Tail, Minnesota, USA Dwelling Number:51 Race:White Gender:Female Relation to Head of House:Daughter Marital status:Single Father's Name:Thosten Andeson Father's Birthplace:Norway Mother's Name:Anne Andeson Mother's Birthplace:Nor Occupation:At Home Attended School:Yes Neighbors:View others on page Household Members: NameAge Thosten Andeson45 Anne Andeson54 Tritiof Andeson17 Tilla Andeson14 Maren Andeson 12 https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?ti=0&indiv=try&db=1880usfedcen&h=33229060 Edited November 22, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Thorsten Anderson in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name:Thorsten Anderson Birth Date:20 May 1835 Death Date:4 Dec 1900 Cemetery:Miller Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place:Silverton, Marion County, Oregon, United States of America Has Bio?:N Spouse:Anne Anderson Anne Anderson in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name:Anne Anderson Birth Date:27 Apr 1827 Death Date:29 Dec 1895 Cemetery:Miller Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place:Silverton, Marion County, Oregon, United States of America Has Bio?:N Spouse:Thorsten Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Thorsten Anderson in the 1900 United States Federal Census Name:Thorsten Anderson Age:65 Birth Date:May 1835 Birthplace:Norway Home in 1900:Barlow, Clackamas, Oregon Sheet Number:1 Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation:6 Family Number:6 Race:White Gender:Male Immigration Year:1867 Relation to Head of House:Father Marital status:Widowed Father's Birthplace:Norway Mother's Birthplace:Norway Years in US:33 Naturalization:Naturalized Can Read:Yes Can Write:Yes Can Speak English:Yes Neighbors:View others on page Household Members: NameAge Fred Anderson37 Annie Anderson31 Thorsten Anderson65 Joseph T Anderson7 Arthur F Anderson6 Alma Anderson3 Thorsten Anderson2 Fred må være Frijthof. Edited November 22, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Fred Anderson in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name:Fred Anderson Birth Date:1863 Death Date:1940 Cemetery:Zoar Lutheran Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place:Aurora, Clackamas County, Oregon, United States of America Has Bio?:N Spouse:Annie J. Anderson Children:Joseph T. Anderson Ida Annette Frum Mabel Theoline Thompson Alice Frances Thompson Arthur L. Anderson Infant Daughter Anderson Thorsten Johan Anderson Alma Josephine Olsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Anne Tonby said: Familien i census 1870 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDHH-54Z Kona til Thorsten er savnet i 1870 FT. Kanskje var Thorsten gift to ganger? Thorsten Anderson in the Web: MInnesota, U.S., Marriages from the Minnesota Official Marriage System, 1850-2019 Name:Thorsten Anderson Marriage Date:13 Jan 1871 Marriage Place:Douglas, Minnesota, USA Spouse:Anna Nilsdotter Moseng Certificate Number:A - 166 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Dåp av Maren datter av Thorsten Andersen og Anne Eliasdatter i Fillmore, County, Minnesota. Maren Elisa Andersen in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969 Name:Maren Elisa Andersen Baptism Age:0 Record Type:Baptism Birth Date:5 Jul 1867 Baptism Date:15 Sep 1867 Baptism Place:Fillmore, Minnesota, USA Father:Tosten Andersen Mother:Anne Eliasdtr Church Name:Bethlehem Lutheran Church Church Location:Lanesboro, Minnesota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Sannsynligvis død av den første kona til Thorsten Andersen i 1868 i Rushford, Fillmore County, Minnesota. Anne Eliasdatter in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969 Name:Anne Eliasdatter Record Type:Burial Death Date:21 Dec 1868 Burial Date:18 Apr 1869 Church Name:Rushford Lutheran Church Church Location:Rushford, Minnesota Født ca 1831 i Norderhaug? https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=nik24&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&indiv=1&dbid=60722&gsfn=ann*&gsln=elias*&gsfn_x=1&gsln_x=1&new=1&rank=1&uidh=bz3&redir=false&gss=angs-d&pcat=34&fh=10&h=5144493&recoff=&ml_rpos=11&queryId=6f8678de640a6f89806afcae1327eb73 Edited November 22, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Her er en dåp av en Anne Eliasdatter fra Norderhov. Anne Eliasen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name:Anne Eliasen Gender:Female Birth Date:13 feb 1832 Baptism Date:29 des 1832 (29 Dec 1832) Baptism Place:Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway Father:Elias Eriksen Mother:Else Jonsdr FHL Film Number:124056 Nr. 10 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070314620644 Edited November 22, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Vielsen https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/327/pv00000009143924 Anton Hagelee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Dåpen til Torsten https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHK2-XBW Name: Tosten Event Type: Christening Event Date: 12 Jul 1835 Event Place: Bragernes, Buskerud, Norway Event Place (Original): Bragernes Drammen, Buskerud, Norway Gender: Male Birth Date: 20 May 1835 Father's Name: Elen Andersen Mother's Name: Maren Tostensdr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Et langskudd dette: Her er en Anne født 1826, far Niels Pedersen, Moseng, Tolga, Hedmark. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000013284834 Nr. 16 https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070603440467 1865 FT https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038049003832 Edited November 22, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Sven Hjortland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 9 minutter siden, Anton Hagelee skrev: Et langskudd dette: Her er en Anne født 1826, far Niels Pedersen, Moseng, Tolga, Hedmark. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000013284834 Riktig fødselsdato, men 1 år forskjell i forhold til FAG, men det er nok samme person. Anne Anderson in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name:Anne Anderson Birth Date:27 Apr 1827 Death Date:29 Dec 1895 Cemetery:Miller Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place:Silverton, Marion County, Oregon, United States of America Has Bio?:N Spouse:Thorsten Anderson Anton Hagelee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars E. Øyane Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 Innlegg #20: Hjarteleg takk til Anton, Anne og Sven for mange supre og spennande innlegg! Eg er skikkeleg imponert! Det er tydeleg at vigselsattesten til Thomas frå Vernon Co., WI 67.2.1882 har leia oss på «vanskelege» stiar: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XR2P-H9B Denne attesten seier Thomas H. Nash, men det er utan tvil same mann; foreldri hans var Henrik Torbjørnson Næs alias Henry Torgerson, og mori var Berit Tollefsdotter Haugen frå Slidre i Valdres. Borni skreiv seg for det meste Torgerson! Den einaste forklaringi eg kan finna, er følgjande: Thomas må ha vore gift TO gongar. Og her fann eg no vigsli til Thomas og Tilla: POLK C/159 06/11/1887 TORGERSON, T H ANDERSON, TILLA A Då oppstår spørsmåli: * Kven var denne første kona Bertha O. Nash? * Og kvar vart det av ho? * Fekk dei born i lag? Her følgjer eit oppdatert manuskript for denne huslyden: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ e. Thomas Torgerson, f. i Crawford Co., Wis. 18.1.1862, d. i Vancouver, Wash. 10.11.1892. Thomas gifte seg første gongen i Vernon Co., Wis. 6.2.1882 med Bertha O. ##### (middle name?) Nash, ##### (daughter of Andrew Nash and Ragnhild – who was she?? – info?) So gifte Thomas seg 11.6.1887 att i Polk Col., Minn. med Tilla Anette Torstensdotter Andersen frå Bragernes, i Amerika kjend som Tilla Anderson. Ho var dotter av bøkkar Torsten Ellendson Andersen på Landfall på Bragernes, opphavleg frå Drammen, og første kona Anna Eliasdotter frå ein plass under Sørgefoss i Norderhov og f. på Bragernes 14.7.1865, men utvandra til Amerika med foreldri sine i 1866. ##### (eller 1867?) Ho d. i Sweet Home, Ore. 6.7.1930. Thomas Torgerson var arbeidar («laborer»), og han og Tilla budde i Vancouver, Clark Co., Wash., men som enkje gifte Tilla seg att i Vancouver, Wash. 7.10.1897 med enkjemannen John C. ##### (middle name?) Miller, f. i Henrico Co., Va. 28.1.1847. Han d. i Vancouver, Wash. 7.10.1902. John og Tilla farma i Manor precinct, Clark Co., Wash., men då ho på ny vart enkje, flytte Tilla til Canby, Clackamas Co., Ore. Ho fekk i alt tre born, som alle var frå første ekteskapet med Thomas, men John Miller hadde òg to born frå to tidlegare ekteskap. ##### (hadde Thomas born med første kona si??) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ein ny kjempetakk for framifrå bistand i freistnadane på å komplettera denne biografien! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Hagelee Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Lars E. Øyane said: Denne attesten seier Thomas H. Nash, men det er utan tvil same mann; foreldri hans var Henrik Torbjørnson Næs alias Henry Torgerson, og mori var Berit Tollefsdotter Haugen frå Slidre i Valdres. Borni skreiv seg for det meste Torgerson! Den einaste forklaringi eg kan finna, er følgjande: Thomas Hendrikson Nash in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969 Name:Thomas Hendrikson Nash Gender:Male Record Type:Marriage Marriage Date:6 Feb 1881 Marriage Place:Vernon, Wisconsin, USA Spouse:Bertha Olina Andersdr Nash Church Name:West Prairie Lutheran Church Church Location:Vernon County, Wisconsin https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=60722&h=1643073&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=4997 år ? Edited November 23, 2020 by Anton Hagelee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Hjortland Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 35 minutter siden, Lars E. Øyane skrev: Bertha O. ##### (middle name?) Olina https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=60722&h=9595756&tid=&pid=&queryId=1423e3b789a5a120019eeec8837f3f7f&usePUB=true&_phsrc=ITW6615&_phstart=successSource Name: Bertha Olina Andersdr Nass Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 6 Feb 1881 Marriage Place: West Prairie, Wisconsin, USA Spouse: Thomas Hendrikson Church Name: West Prairie Church Location: West Prairie, Wisconsin Edited November 23, 2020 by Sven Hjortland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars E. Øyane Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 Innlegg #23: Hjarteleg takk til Anton og Sven for siste innleggi! Eg er ganske so sikker på at vigselsåret var 1882, sjå òg det offisielle registeret. Interessant er det uansett at Bertha har fått mellomnamnet Oline, og eg har ein sterk mistanke, om me tek omsyn til det tette bandet denne ætti hadde med Highland Lutheran church i Fillmore Co., MN (der mellom anna tanta Britha Sanderson Fossen budde), at dette godt KAN vera den Bertha Oline me leiter etter: Berte Oline, f. 9.11.1862 av foreldri Anders Olson og Ragnhild Olsdotter: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60722/images/41742_314738-00846?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=1aa1977a2b11bd6afa1e8422e8a98285&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx22078&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.136584752.1695409772.1606056092-1442769865.1532627837&pId=1639488 Ei søster Marte er f. same stad 17.1.1861: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60722/images/41742_314738-00840?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=1aa1977a2b11bd6afa1e8422e8a98285&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx22078&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.136584752.1695409772.1606056092-1442769865.1532627837&pId=1639488 Her er vigsli til foreldri: Name: Andrew Oleson Gender: Male Marriage Date: 24 Mar 1860 Marriage Place: Fillmore, Minnesota Spouse's Name: Ragnhld Olesdatter Spouse Gender: Female Event Type: Marriage FHL Film Number: 1316804 Men kvar kjem Nash-namnet ifrå? Og her er Bertha O. Nash i Norway township, Fillmore Co., MN i 1880 - 17 år ugift: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYB2-9ZFT Ein ny kjempetakk for framifrå bistand i freistnadane på å komplettera denne biografien! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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