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Hi Martina: The baptism (at https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/5902/62, entry 99) is for Siem (called Siam in the 1881 emigration record). Baptised 26 Dec [1879]. Born at what I read as Husebyeie [definitely Huseby with a couple of vowels at the end] - in essence a cottage on the farm of Huseby in Røyken parish. This is the same farm where Didrik was born in 1874, and where they were living when they emigrated in 1881. In column 6, for parents, the squiggle before Syver's name is Hmd., which stands for Husmand - what in English might be called a cottager, that is, someone farming a small plot of land and with a lower status than a full-blown farmer. The squiggle before Marie Svendsdtr.'s name is Hst., which stands for Hustru - i.e., wife. As you have probably figured out, the 1846 behind each of their names is their birthyear. The four names in the next column are the baptismal witnesses.

Jeg har anmodet etterkommerne å forsøke å oppnå kontakt med etterkommere etter Susanne Nilsen, og satser på at dette skjer.

Dette er fars slekt. Det er lite treff fra nordmenn på DNA. Det er ikke etterkommere fra mannslinje etter OAO i live, så Y-DNA utgår. Jeg har lagt inn endel opplysninger om etterkommere etter søsken til Ole Andreas Olsen f. 6. juni 1883 sin mor, Susanne Nilsen, i denne tråden, flere av dem antagelig fortsatt i live i USA. DNA-test av dem vil antagelig gi svar på om dette er riktig Ole Andreas. En eller flere av disse burde kontaktes for DNA-test, dersom man faktisk ønsker et svar på denne gåten.

Vil bare tilføye følgende: Dette gjelder ikke bare MH/Geni - du skal alltid sjekke oppgitt informasjon mot kilder uansett. Slektstrær på nett er opprettet av en bruker og det er ingen garanti for at den spesifikke brukeren har lagt inn korrekt informasjon.

Enig med deg. 🙂

The same entry from DA: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/6/pc00000000835382 The date her certificate for moving was issued, (6/10-1865), show us that this is the correct person.

Could it be "Grdflk", Gaardfolk? ("Farm people") I haven't seen it before, but several here have this title. Could it be people who worked on the farm with no ownership?

Her er samme dødsfallet som Gecchwind fant, i dødsfallprotokollen for Østre Aker. Nr. 3: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20090519370954.

Lysning nummer 98 Oslo fylke, Kampen i Oslo, Lysningsprotokoll nr. 5 (1920-1927), Lysninger 1923, Side 57 Permanent bilde-ID: kb20060515030201 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060515030201 Permanent bildelenke: http://urn.digitalarkivet.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060515030201.jpg

Det er spesielt etterkommere etter Susanne Nilsens bror, Simon, jeg tenker på, han ser ut til å ha mange nålevende etterkommere i Amerika gjennom flere linjer.

Gudrun Elfrida Botha giftet seg med Charles Lysell 30.9.1927 - hun var da enke : SAK, Arendal sokneprestkontor, Trefoldighet, F/Fb/L0007: Klokkerbok nr. B 7, 1916-1927, s. 239 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060509040343

I'm not Carl-Henry 😉 , but: it means (Ottos parents) married in October 1871, which isn’t quite correct since they married in September 1871. And yes his birth is in 1875.

Yes, but it seems this family had some problems getting its patronyms straight. If you look at Otto Syversen's baptismal record (at https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/5901/137) you will see that the priest first recorded his parents as Syvert Olsen and Marie Kristoffersdatter and only later realised that they were actually Syvert Andersen and Marie Svendsdatter. We can be sure that Anna Maria Svensdatter, daughter of Sven Larsson, is your ancestor because (1) multiple sources in Norway say she was born in Holmedal; (2) this Anna Maria is the only Anna Maria Svensdatter born in Holmedal in the 1840s; and (3) this Anna Maria left Holmedal on 6 Oct 1865, and your Anna Maria is recorded in Eidsberg in 1865 as having left Holmedal on that exact same date (this is then the same Anna Maria who left Eidsberg for Røyken in 1871). Given that Anna Maria left for Norway on her own and her father remained in Sweden, the father was not personally known to the priest or the congregation in Røyken, and thus it is to me quite plausible that the priest made a mistake in recording the father's patronym.

Hi Martina: 1) The record that Anne-Lise shows in post #11 is from the 1856-1860 household examination book (Swedish equivalent of a census). So Elin Persdr. must have already been dead by this time, as Sven Larsson was already living with his second wife at this time. 2) V:a Fogelvik is how Sven's birth place was spelled in the actual death record; this is the same as what is now known as Västra Fågelvik (which is the parish just west of Holmedal parish in Värmland county, wedged between Holmedal and the Norwegian border). For the geography of these parishes in Värmland, see the map at https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Värmland_County,_Sweden_Genealogy 3) Lefverbyn is a farm in Homedal parish. Sven was already living here in 1856-60, and he died here in 1891 (edit - should be 1901). 4) The death record is from the Swedish archives, which are behind a paywall - which is why you can't access them directly with the link. Perhaps Anne-Lise can give you instructions if you want to sign up for a membership to explore the Swedish records yourself.

Bare ett lite råd fra meg. Stol aldri på det du finner på MyHeritage eller Geni (samme eier) før du har kontrollert informasjonen mot en primærkilde. (F.eks. kirkebok. o.l.) Les denne diskusjonen. https://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/224588-genicom-og-fake-news/

Emigrasjonen i 1881 ligger i innlegg 2. Her står Anne Marie med feil alder,29 år.

Source for the baptism: : Holmedal (S) CI:3 (1797-1851) Bild 145 / sid 384 (AID: v6727.b145.s384, NAD: SE/VA/13214)

? http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=If01001812&gardpostnr=24160&personpostnr=24160&merk=24160#ovre

Census 1875. Anne Marie Svendsdatter 1845 Holmedal,Sverige http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1875&knr=0627&kenr=005&bnr=0031&lnr=00

Er han forfar til din farmor? Da kan det jo tyde på at det er riktig spor... Og da fikk eg svar på det mens eg skreiv 😄 Det var vel en til i denne tråden som hadde DNA-match med familien...

Nå forstår jeg ikke hva du mener. Jeg siterer innlegget til Gangstø, som har lagt ut et tre for far til Ole Andreas Olsen f. 6. juni 1863. Det er ikke min far... Men det jeg forsøker å forklare, er at man kjenner til flere nålevende nære slektninger fra denne personens morsside, som kan være aktuelle kandidater for DNA for sammenlikning med OAOs slektninger.

Takk til deg Ann-Mary for at du forsøker å gi meg en hjelpende hånd. Jeg heller vel til den oppfatning at det i Müller slektsboken er gjort en skrivefeil hva årstallet angår. Jeg har kun lett på dødsfall i kirkebøkene for året 1858.

Sorry, what a blunder! You are absolutely right, and that makes more sense, too!

Thank you again Carl-Henry and Richard! I'm starting to understand some of these translations and how to search for these records.

Tusen takk for den lenken. Den trengte jeg også.

Jeg lurer på om dette er Alfred i f.t. 1910 for Flosta. Faren heter Aralt Nilsen: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01036551000082 Og det stemmer ganske så bra med dåpsinnførselen: Aust-Agder fylke, Flosta i Dypvåg, Ministerialbok nr. A 1 (1885-1912), Fødte og døpte 1893, Side 94-95 Permanent bilde-ID: kb20060531120307 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060531120307 Permanent bildelenke:

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Thank you again Carl-Henry for the translation of Didrik Syversen. 🙂

I believe you are referring to entry 38 in this record: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/5901/127 This is the baptismal record for Didrik Syversen. Column 2 says he was born 1 Jan [1874]. Column 3 says that his baptism at home was affirmed at church on 12 April [1874]. In essence, in some cases (especially when the baby seemed weak and in danger of dying), a baptism was performed quickly at home, but that always involved the danger that it might not be properly performed or witnessed, and thus such home-baptisms had to be either affirmed or repeated in church later on. Column 4 gives his name, column 5 says he was legitimate (i.e., parents were married to each other). Column 6 gives his parents as Syver Andersen and Anne Marie Svendsdtr of Huseby [a farm in Røyken parish - so this is where Didrik was born], [ages] 28 and 28, married Sept 1871. There is a word before Syver's name that indicates his profession, but I cannot make it out. Column 7 gives the name of the 5 baptismal witnesses. Column 8 notes that he was baptised at home by the midwife and gives her name.

Aust-Agder fylke, Arendal, Dødsfallsprotokoll nr. 4 (1917-1926), Løst vedlegg, Side 226-227 Permanent bilde-ID: sk10411112160116 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk10411112160116 Permanent bildelenke: http://urn.digitalarkivet.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-sk10411112160116.jpg

Supert,Grethe! 🙂

Det får man si, Sigward ser ut til å ha vært innom de flest verdensdeler. Dette er utrolig kjekt å ha med i slektstreet. Takker Mvh Ivar

Oops, my mistake. I edited in my post.

Ja det står 22 Aprilis 1770. Det var 1. søndag etter påske i 1770. (Dominica Quasimodogeniti)

Jeg ser at jeg innførte stopp av indeksering av ytterligere dødsfallsprotokoller for Bergen 10. november 2009, og at vi 12. november fjernet det som var indeksert og publisert, dvs. t.o.m. 1942. Beskjeden om indekseringsstopp kan ikke ha nådd fram dit den skulle, for 16. november oppdaget vi at 11 nye protokoller var indeksert og automatisk publisert. De ble nok da fjernet samme dag, så de var vel bare tilgjengelige 3-4 dager, vil jeg tro. Da skulle historikken være klarlagt!

Gjort :)

En må bare bli imponert over dyktighet og vilje til å hjelpe. Hjertelig takk

Takk for hjelpen.Beklager at jeg ikke gjorde det selv. Mvh Arve Viddal

Hvordan skal man tolke denne opplysningen sakset fra Egil Johannessens innlegg. Discharge Date: 1 Aug 1893Discharge Place: Fleetwood, EnglandDischarge: Died Jeg vil oppfatte det som om at Johan Martin Norbeck døde 1893. Noen som har synspunkter på det? Avmønstret pga dødsfall?

Bildene er nå også indeksert med sidetall.

Sven Larsson's first marriage from FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FK5F-YQZ

Her father seems to have been married tvice.

This is the only Anna Maria Svensdotter born in Holmedal in the 1840'es, but het father's name is Sven Larsson. Förnamn Anna Maria Födelsedatum 1846-08-20 Födelseplats Holmedal Födelseförsamling (normerat) Holmedal, Värmlands län Relation/Titel Dotter Boendeförsamling Holmedal, Värmlands län Plats Lefverbyn Tidsperiod 1856 - 1860 Länkar Källa: Holmedal AI:15 (1856-1860) Bild 130 / Sida 125 Födelsebok: Holmedal CI:3 (1797-1851) Samma hushåll Sven Larsson Maria Olsdr. Erik Anders Anna Maria Per Aron Christina Ingeborg Maria Andersdr. Anders Andersdr. Edvin Svensson 1817-03-23 1818-08-04 1841-10-20 1844-06-24 1846-08-20 1849-09-08 1851-11-27 1851-02-05 1858-12-04 1840-04-18 1846-01-30 1856-04-16 Genväg r5.p91981260 When looking in the houshold examination book, it is written that she moves 6/10-1865 to 'Hallands sn.' in Norway. This could well be Herland parish, because there is no 'Halland' parish in Norway.' Source: BiS, Befolkningen i Sverige 1860-1930 (ArkivDigital) AID: r5.p91981260  Houshold examination book: Holmedal (S) AI:16 (1861-1870) Bild 166 / sid 153 (AID: v11541.b166.s153, NAD: SE/VA/13214) Moving out: Holmedal (S) BI:2 (1861-1894) Bild 19 (AID: v6724.b19, NAD: SE/VA/13214)

So the 1875 Norwegian census also lists her birthplace as Holmedal (presumably Holmedal parish in Värmland). This census adds the additional tidbit that, as of 1875, she and her two children were being supported by the parish poor-relief fund (no husband in sight). And the other record found by Ann-Mary shows that Anne Marie Svendsdatter came at age 19 in 1865 from Holmedal in Sweden to Eidsberg in Østfold county, Norway, to enter service, and then left in 1871 (presumably to move on to Røyken). I am afraid that I am not familiar with Swedish sources (which appear to be less well-organized than the Norwegian ones, plus behind a bunch of paywalls), so I'm not sure how to go about finding a birth record for her in Sweden. I'm sure, though, there are others on this forum who are familiar with research in Swedish sources.

Electoral registers 1832-1932 Image Constituency in full: Parliamentary County of Buckinghamshire, Buckingham Division Constituency: P C of Buckinghamshire, Buckingham Division Year: 1928 Register type: Parliamentary County Polling district or place: Newport Pagnell County: Buckinghamshire Country: England Archive: The British Library Archive reference: SPR.Mic.P.15/BL.B.118 Image number: 474 Record set: England & Wales, Electoral Registers 1832-1932 Category: Census, land & surveys Subcategory: Electoral Rolls

Tar med vielsen til Sigvardt Olai i 1902: Glamorganshire Marriages And Banns First name(s) Sigward Last name Olsen Year 1902 Birth year 1878 Marriage year 1902 Spouse's first name(s) Louisa Spouse's last name Davies County Glamorganshire Country Wales Place Roath, St Saviour Age 24 Marriage date 25 Dec 1902 Residence - Father's first name(s) Sutton Father's last name Olsen Spouse's age 22 Spouse's residence - Spouse's father's first name(s) John Spouse's father's last name Davies Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from Wales, Great Britain

? South Australia Deaths 1842-1972 First name(s) Leslie Sigward Last name Olsen Gender Male Status Married Birth year 1904 Death year 1971 Death date 29 Apr 1971 Age at death 67y Residence Brooklyn Park Place Adelaide District Adelaide State South Australia Country Australia Registration number 123A/2822 Informant Wife Informant's first name(s) Doris Helen Informant's last name Olsen Notes Person died in an institution i.e. hospital, nursing facility or religious community Record set South Australia Deaths 1842-1972 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials

National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914 First name(s) Leslie Sigward Last name Olsen Birth year 1904 Birth date 12 Jan 1904 Event year 1911 School name Gladstone Primary School, Cardiff (Boys) Town Cardiff County Glamorganshire Country Wales Parent name(s) Sigward Olsen Book type Admissions Archive reference EC10/1/1 Folio / page no. - Archive Glamorganshire Archives Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914 Category Education & work Subcategory Schools & Education

Nye bilder er nå på plass, f.eks. s. 62: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb10711808140001 Lenkene til de gamle bildene vil bli omdirigert til de nye bildene.

Bildet er nå indeksert: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb10511808150001